CVByrne Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 If Mings doesn't start against Everton surely he leaves the club this window. I get this feeling Gerrards approach to man management isn't the best. Carney left at home, fair enough. Binning off Guilbert and then Traore to the reserves! Sanson sending a message after being left out of the 20. Mings losing Captaincy and then dropped rather than put him in to get a reaction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted August 7, 2022 Author Share Posted August 7, 2022 Unbelievable not one person jumping. You can bet mings would have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, grobs said: Think there is a massive overreaction here. I don’t think dropping mings was all that bad of a decision. We lose that game whether mings plays or not and we’d have all been slating him in here after. Hi Stevie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, CVByrne said: If Mings doesn't start against Everton surely he leaves the club this window. I get this feeling Gerrards approach to man management isn't the best. Carney left at home, fair enough. Binning off Guilbert and then Traore to the reserves! Sanson sending a message after being left out of the 20. Mings losing Captaincy and then dropped rather than put him in to get a reaction. Pretty sure Targett left because of his poor man management as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Unbelievable not one person jumping. You can bet mings would have The ball wouldnt have got to Moore Moore probably wont score another goal this season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, CVByrne said: If Mings doesn't start against Everton surely he leaves the club this window. I get this feeling Gerrards approach to man management isn't the best. Carney left at home, fair enough. Binning off Guilbert and then Traore to the reserves! Sanson sending a message after being left out of the 20. Mings losing Captaincy and then dropped rather than put him in to get a reaction. Mate Guilbert is shit, Traore is a lazy bastard (I know that insinuation upsets a lot on here but it's true) and Sanson has been seen to throw 2 strops on the bench or coming off which is a shocking rate considering we hardly ever bloody see him. Plus someone's got to go in the reserves, the squad is massive! In the case of Mings, all was not well with Smith either at the end (Sanson to that point also same treatment under Smithbaa Gerrard) and there may be valid reasons on the captaincy. I'm absolutely on board with the view that Gerrard is a pashun merchant who is out of his depth but at times i think we are just picking up any potential thing to throw at him because he's been so underwhelming for us. Edited August 7, 2022 by villanmac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Have to say. I don't usually go in for autobiographies, I would, in any case make an exception for Ty, as he is erudite and interesting. Keen to get his insight into the past year at Villa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, grobs said: Think there is a massive overreaction here. I don’t think dropping mings was all that bad of a decision. We lose that game whether mings plays or not and we’d have all been slating him in here after. We’ll never know but I do find it funny the same people that said Mings wasn’t good enough for us are now upset he didn’t start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’ll never know but I do find it funny the same people that said Mings wasn’t good enough for us are now upset he didn’t start. For me chambers would have been the better option yesterday , not Mings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparrow1988 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’ll never know but I do find it funny the same people that said Mings wasn’t good enough for us are now upset he didn’t start. I would like to say that IMO Mings is good enough for us and should be starting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Eastie said: For me chambers would have been the better option yesterday , not Mings I think nearly every starting team in pre match thread had Mings or Chambers to play next to Carlos he throws in Konsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’ll never know but I do find it funny the same people that said Mings wasn’t good enough for us are now upset he didn’t start. Are they actually the same people or are you doing that VT thing where different people's opinions get conflated to support general accusations of hypocrisy? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I think it's been a fair argument that at times Mings has been poor over the past couple of years, and it wouldn't have been unreasonable to want to see him dropped at specific points, while still thinking it was ludicrous to start ahead of Konsa yesterday. The world isn't black and white, it's not hypocrisy to change ones opinion based on the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We’ll never know but I do find it funny the same people that said Mings wasn’t good enough for us are now upset he didn’t start. Who are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Who are they? When I’m over my hangover I’ll show you. No idea what’s happened with Mings but wouldn’t surprise me if he’s gone before the window closes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Olof82Mellberg4 Posted August 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Davkaus said: I think it's been a fair argument that at times Mings has been poor over the past couple of years, and it wouldn't have been unreasonable to want to see him dropped at specific points, while still thinking it was ludicrous to start ahead of Konsa yesterday. The world isn't black and white, it's not hypocrisy to change ones opinion based on the circumstances. Fans don't seem to understand games beyond individual moments. Mings influence goes beyond the times he's individually involved. He's one of our only leaders, does all the talking and organising, he's the only with any presence. One of those players who makes those around him better. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 (edited) On 10/05/2022 at 22:18, Demitri_C said: This is why mings will never be a top player. He always has a 1 in 5 game like this when he makes vital errors that cost us goals. If we had not conceded so early after our goal we really could have got something today Here’s one. Sorry Dem @DCJonah I’ll find you some more later. There are many. This isn’t a defence of Gerrard. I’ve always rated Mings. Edited August 7, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Chambers has done nothing wrong, but don't start, Buendia is the best creative player over couts, but don't start, McGinn poor player, but is now captain, Mings dropped, Traore for me shows more than Bailey, should start, but maybe swapped for bailey later in the game, Ramsey is not a starter, I could go on. Gerrards lack of experience is showing through. If all he has learnt is from the over thinking Beale,(who ain't won a game yet) I think we are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I imagine he’ll be playing against Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Whilst I think Ming's should have played yesterday. There is always the possibility that he would have gotten into one of those dick swinging physical battles he often gets into with strikers that are his size, where it becomes a personal vendetta to prove he is bigger and stronger to the detriment of actually playing football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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