Villatillidie95 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Would be a great pickup for Luton and would also “get back” at watford after the shenanigans that occured there this season involving him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted June 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2023 Chuck him in the reserves for 2 seasons absolute wasteman 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Chuck him in the reserves for 2 seasons absolute wasteman what the hell? why? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Chuck him in the reserves for 2 seasons absolute wasteman Bizarre Good signing for us given where we were, served his purpose now move him on, problem is with his injury I'm not sure anyone would take him He's better than faes or whatever his name is at Leicester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Cost us £3m about 4/5 seasons back. Owes us nowt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) Was a poor decision to renew his contract when he was clearly already surplus to requirements. The club probably over estimated his transfer value and thought they were being clever, the reality is he was a good squad signing at the time but we should have shaken hands and parted ways last summer when that option was on the table, as the club has clearly moved on from that first loan spell and subsequent permanent deal when we were first promoted Edited June 20, 2023 by david-avfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, david-avfc said: Was a poor decision to renew his contract when he was clearly already surplus to requirements. The club probably over estimated his transfer value and thought they were being clever, the reality is he was a good squad signing at the time but we should have shaken hands and parted ways last summer when that option was on the table yeah, cant disagree with that tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Tom13 said: Attention seeking? Only reason I can think of. The guy clearly doesn't want to play football? Renewed his contract when he was a bit player. We put him out on loan and he clearly had a fall out because he didn't want to play football? We were stupid enough to give him a big deal that's our bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: The guy clearly doesn't want to play football? Renewed his contract when he was a bit player. We put him out on loan and he clearly had a fall out because he didn't want to play football? We were stupid enough to give him a big deal that's our bad. That 10 minutes alone in the play off final pays for his entire time with us. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, The Fun Factory said: That 10 minutes alone in the play off final pays for his entire time with us. Next. Also played a part to keep us up (1,544 minutes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 He scored the winner at Old Trafford, he’s as far from being a waste of space as I am from getting any work done this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 On 20/06/2023 at 19:48, rodders0223 said: Chuck him in the reserves for 2 seasons absolute wasteman What a stupid comment he’s done well for us when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 hours ago, rodders0223 said: The guy clearly doesn't want to play football? Renewed his contract when he was a bit player. We put him out on loan and he clearly had a fall out because he didn't want to play football? We were stupid enough to give him a big deal that's our bad. How do you know we have him a ‘big’ deal? I’d wager his deal isn’t particularly big. According to sportac he’s on £8k per week? I don’t know how reliable they are. Maybe we even made a profit on him based on loan fees? Prob didn’t even pay his wages while he was out on loan Maybe we even had recall options to provide essential cover in disaster situations? I love how people jump to bizarre conclusions. He has a contract and didn’t play for us therefore he must be a wasteman and a parasite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, Thug said: How do you know we have him a ‘big’ deal? I’d wager his deal isn’t particularly big. According to sportac he’s on £8k per week? I don’t know how reliable they are. Maybe we even made a profit on him based on loan fees? Prob didn’t even pay his wages while he was out on loan Maybe we even had recall options to provide essential cover in disaster situations? I love how people jump to bizarre conclusions. He has a contract and didn’t play for us therefore he must be a wasteman and a parasite. He's absolutely not on £8000 a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 27 minutes ago, Thug said: How do you know we have him a ‘big’ deal? I’d wager his deal isn’t particularly big. According to sportac he’s on £8k per week? I don’t know how reliable they are. He’s on at least £20k per week. At least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Enda said: He’s on at least £20k per week. At least. Based on..? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: He's absolutely not on £8000 a week. Source? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, Thug said: Based on..? probably a guess based on market rates, we will have youth players on more than £8k a week and £20k a week is still not a lot for a PL footballer not sure what the problem is with him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, villa4europe said: probably a guess based on market rates, we will have youth players on more than £8k a week and £20k a week is still not a lot for a PL footballer not sure what the problem is with him We signed him as a side in the championship from a side that had gained promotion from the championship. He was an average player in that side. It would not be beyond unreasonable to assume we paid him an average wage. Quote The average wage in the championship is supposedly £8k per week. What is the average wage of a Championship footballer? Footballers’ wages tend to take a sharp dive if they ply their trade in the Championship and the average salary for a player in the second tier drops down to about £7,000 a week. https://blog.mansion.com/sports/football/average-salaries-for-players-in-all-four-divisions-of-english-professional-football/ Maybe the ONLY reason we extended his contract was BECAUSE his low wage demands represented good value? It’s not beyond the realms of being realistic, surely? The wage you can demand depends very much on what other offers are on the table. Maybe he’s on more. Who knows? Regardless, some random interwebs people making up things like ‘gave him a big contract’ and calling the people who gave him the contract stupid and then labelling the player as a ‘wasteman’ as a consequence of the aforementioned work of fiction - is stupid. You know nothing. Don’t make shit up. Whatever contract he was given may well have represented decent value for us at the time we offered it to him. Edit: (I’m not referencing you with ‘you’, it’s ‘you’ as in ‘one’) Edited June 21, 2023 by Thug 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Thug said: We signed him as a side in the championship from a side that had gained promotion from the championship. He was an average player in that side. It would not be beyond unreasonable to assume we paid him an average wage. https://blog.mansion.com/sports/football/average-salaries-for-players-in-all-four-divisions-of-english-professional-football/ Maybe the ONLY reason we extended his contract was BECAUSE his low wage demands represented good value? It’s not beyond the realms of being realistic, surely? The wage you can demand depends very much on what other offers are on the table. Maybe he’s on more. Who knows? Regardless, some random interwebs people making up things like ‘gave him a big contract’ and calling the people who gave him the contract stupid and then labelling the player as a ‘wasteman’ as a consequence of the aforementioned work of fiction - is stupid. You know nothing. Don’t make shit up. Whatever contract he was given may well have represented decent value for us at the time we offered it to him. Edit: (I’m not referencing you with ‘you’, it’s ‘you’ as in ‘one’) Even if he was 'happy to sit on the bench' we were more than happy to offer him a contract to do so (if that was what he was told). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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