Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, hippo said: I agree - but what a sad state football is in when you think like that - and it's not an uncommon view. It is sad and hopefully we do get through. A final is a final. Its just been a while since theres been such a gulf in class with teams that are able to get to the final next to City Look what happened to Watford in the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, wazzap24 said: I dunno, if we lose 2 out of the next 3 league games and the cup game, I think they might pull the trigger. The saving grace is, we are still only 3 points off 14th and if we could get 2 or 3 positive results from the next 3 games things will be looking ok again (BIG if I know) I’m still of the opinion that if we could get the right players in over the next couple of weeks, we’ll be fine. Difficulty is attracting good enough players when your in the bottom 3 and just got stuffed 6-1 at home. As I see it either owners really spend and maybe change the Manager or stick with Dean, accept likely relegation and continue club rebuild with more parachute money and inevitable funds from star player sales. mmmh! I say star players perhaps I should just say Jack. Also hope Nyland keeps his spot, not one goal today down to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pimlico_Villa said: We play 5 at the back (it isn’t a wing back system) and 2 holding midfielders. That’s effectively 7 at the back, so O think the defence does get protection from the midfield. Fine - I don’t . Its not about the numbers, for me, it’s about the performances. I don’t feel our midfield performed today, I don’t think they carried any threat, or offered any protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, KHV said: We need a keeper, two full backs, two midfielders, two strikers and a winger A manager........................ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: Interesting - some Posters think he’s too rigid. For me it’s less about the system and more about getting a high level of performance from those picked. Thats not happening often enough. I appreciate it’s tough for a newly promoted and newly built side, particularly the more hidden mental side, but above all else Deanos job is to get the most out the players. I feel he has done so pretty well until a few weeks ago. Now the below par performances are outweighing the decent ones. When we're good we compete and hold our own. Not brilliant but the standard you expect. When we're bad we're really bad! Somethings not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Vive_La_Villa said: When we're good we compete and hold our own. Not brilliant but the standard you expect. When we're bad we're really bad! Somethings not right. Well it’s not uncommon for new teams to veer from one to the other. We need to make sure we veer back sharpish ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, SuffolkVillan said: Difficulty is attracting good enough players when your in the bottom 3 and just got stuffed 6-1 at home. As I see it either owners really spend and maybe change the Manager or stick with Dean, accept likely relegation and continue club rebuild with more parachute money and inevitable funds from star player sales. mmmh! I say star players perhaps I should just say Jack. Also hope Nyland keeps his spot, not one goal today down to him I fear they are taking the latter option. Pittach should be out of the door pretty quickly as well. My overall fear is not relegation - but that following relegation the owners lose interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, terrytini said: Fine - I don’t . Its not about the numbers, for me, it’s about the performances. I don’t feel our midfield performed today, I don’t think they carried any threat, or offered any protection. I agree with that. Thought our MF was completely porous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 If we were doing the basics right I’d be more inclined to stick with him but we’ve completely abandoned the basics. Hes s nice guy but he needs his P45 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 54 minutes ago, Villarocker said: What I would like to ask is, if Terry is the defensive coach, together with having Smith and O'Kelly who also played defence, how can we so bad defensively? We are atrocious! We gifted goals today for the umpteenth time this season. Is it time to bring in some new backroom staff maybe? I agree with you, our inexperienced back line should not be encouraged to play out in our predicament, get tight, be stong and put you foot through it. Aaarggh the old ways are the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 We just need to bounce back. Watford lost 8-0 to City and Southampton lost 9-0 to Leicestor and both are above us now. The way we play in the next game will show the character of the team. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, SuffolkVillan said: I agree with you, our inexperienced back line should not be encouraged to play out in our predicament, get tight, be stong and put you foot through it. Aaarggh the old ways are the best I was saying this earlier when watching the Bournemouth game. They gave away goals by trying to play it out from the back. When will these teams realise they are not good enough to play this way? When they get relegated I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_Hope Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We have to have a right go at Brighton from the start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Most damning statistic for me was the fact that we only committed 2 fouls in the first half. In a game where you have barely touched the ball, conceded 4 goals at home, been humiliated you only concede 2 fouls . I think City committed 5! We are passive. We do not harass or press. We are so bad both in and out of possession. Some of that blame has to go to the coaches. Sort it out Dean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Not to bang on about this, but these players are just not good enough. That is our predicament, not Smith. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Shots against we're worst in the league. 384 shots against so far. Norwich 2nd worst with 333 shots conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, M_Afro said: Most damning statistic for me was the fact that we only committed 2 fouls in the first half. In a game where you have barely touched the ball, conceded 4 goals at home, been humiliated you only concede 2 fouls . I think City committed 5! We are passive. We do not harass or press. We are so bad both in and out of possession. Some of that blame has to go to the coaches. Sort it out Dean. Nakamba and Luiz did this brilliantly on Wednesday. Yes they kept losing the ball when won it back but they didn't give the Leicester players a second to breath. Today the midfield was non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 My faith in Smith took a beating today. Have always said I will give him the whole season, but today was dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 He has done nothing with this team in 6 months, still swapping and changing systems, what makes us think he is gonna do anything with the January signings. Some are still saying he needs time, when does this actually run out, when we are back in the Championship maybe. I'm not one of those who thought we had turned a corner with the Burnley win, I still stick with the fact he hasn't the qualities or talent to be a manager in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairy In Boots Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: We just need to bounce back. Watford lost 8-0 to City and Southampton lost 9-0 to Leicestor and both are above us now. The way we play in the next game will show the character of the team. Watford changed manager 1 minute ago, Pimlico_Villa said: Not to bang on about this, but these players are just not good enough. That is our predicament, not Smith. No they warranted results earlier this year but he managed some of them games potently he needs to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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