Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Genie said: That’s a very odd response isn’t it. Surely he’d be signing tomorrow after a medical? It’s been reported like that for several days. Wonder if PR was still mulling it over. I read he hasn't agreed personal terms yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, KHV said: Probably changed his mind Maybe he said something like he’d watch the match and make a decision (otherwise could have signed last week)? DS presumably think Reina will now be running a mile. Hopefully putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 as we’re desperate for a quality keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Yeah, that's what the reporter asked him about, and he said he had no clue when he was coming. Probably trying to distance himself from the decisions, in case they transpire to be crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, hippo said: Terrible day for us all. Don't think you can draw any conclusions - we are miles away from city in every sense. Chill out all. Not just City though is it chap. Unfortunately it just brought it all back how shit we can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Graham t said: Actually I think there are problems all over the pitch me old cocker.... I was specifically referring to the OP questioning why, with all the defensive experience in the coaching staff, the defence appears so shaky. Leaving aside they were against a fantastic team, my view is that the reason was because of the non existent protection offered by the midfield. If we are talking more generally, I don’t think in terms of players we have as many problems as some do. I don’t think our players are inferior to many of those in the teams around us. But we need everyone at their best. ( as do those other teams) and recently that’s not been the case in several games. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, danceoftheshamen said: Awful Managerial performance in my view today, Why would you play two players in the full back positions who were last season struggling against Championship teams & were often singled out by TV pundits as being our weak spot, against the biggest scorers in the League? Then to add insult he plays 3 big tall centre backs against City's small tricky forwards which again was asking for trouble. Result = Six conceded, & half of those were amateurish Sunday pub team type mistakes by our players. Poor team selection today in my eyes & now we have completely wrecked our advantage of having the best Goal difference for the run in. Pathetic performance today I thought Elmo played well under Smith last year. It's a toss up between him and Guilbert as to who would do the better defensive shift for me. Targett wasnt fit enough today wss he? Aguero and Jesus hadnt started together in over a year so I'm not sure if you could know that our three tall centre halves (one of whom isn't that tall) would be up against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 We need a keeper, two full backs, two midfielders, two strikers and a winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I said in match thread earlier. I've got no sympathy for him anymore. He continually persists with Taylor, Elmo etc, gets tactically out thought by setting us up predictably more often than not. Is late with his subs or just let's games pass us by. The players don't seem to know what to do half the time and I have yet to see any semblance of the football Brentford played. The 3-4-3 everyone keeps talking about is a straight 5 at the back. You don't play Elmo and Taylor in a midfield 4 ffs! Firstly you've got 5 defensive players at the back, then you play with 2 DM's, that's 7 defensive players within 40 yards of our own goal. You then expect 3 players to carry the attack forward and without a striker in the 3 lol!!! We got squeezed and hemmed in today through stupidity by a team that thrive on static midfields and defences. Without getting carried away with today and against City in general, I can handle getting thumped. What I can't handle is getting thumped over and over again because the basics are missing including the logic........Smith needs to seriously up his game because at the moment he is not showing that he belongs at this level. Yeah we've had a few good results but are they because we've been good or our opponents been substandard on the day? I really want things to work out but it's not just the players, he's had long enough to at least get some organisation with them. You cannot expect those below you to learn if you don't learn yourself. I end with this, we as a team literally play like the thick kid in class who doesn't know what's going on. That's not acceptable. We didn’t play 3-4-3 today. It was a 5-3-2 the 3-4-3 has worked for us because initially it meant the wide players got closer to Wesley. Against Leicester the front 3 kept swapping positions. Also today we didn’t play with a defensive midfielder. Drinkwater was in the middle of the 3. I agree with most of your post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkVillan Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Drops Guilbert after a great display the other day, Elmo comes in, garbage, terrible for the second goal. Brings Drinkwater straight in who has absolutely no match sharpness and plays pathetically. Drinkwater, Luiz and Hourihane starting, absolutely weak as piss combination, leaves a defensive specialist in Nakamba on the bench. 'Clueless' springs to mind. have to agree 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blasterpocket68 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Happy to chill out - fully expected to have a difficult game . Didn't expect the team to give City the freedom of villa park. Do we look like a team who will survive no we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Blasterpocket68 said: Happy to chill out - fully expected to have a difficult game . Didn't expect the team to give City the freedom of villa park. Do we look like a team who will survive no we don't. At times we have, Everton, Newcastle for example. This is the frustrating part as we don’t have any kind of consistency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Not sure I want us to get to the final now. Cant handle seeing us playing them again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Deeney said in his post match interview today that the first thing Pearson did was working with getting the basics right. We are all over the place. There is no structure or organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I thought Elmo played well under Smith last year. It's a toss up between him and Guilbert as to who would do the better defensive shift for me. Targett wasnt fit enough today wss he? Aguero and Jesus hadnt started together in over a year so I'm not sure if you could know that our three tall centre halves (one of whom isn't that tall) would be up against them. Hmm well all of City's forwards are small & tricky so even had Sterling started the same thing applies, Elmo & Taylor were heavily criticized last season as being not good enough defensively and for being our vulnerable spot. If Targett was injured still then i guess there was no choice in playing Taylor but Hause, whilst good in the air against big strikers was always going to be ineffective today. Anyhow the games out of the way, damage done so it's all about the next three now, Brighton, Watford & Bournemouth. We need 5 or 6 points minimum from those surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Not sure I want us to get to the final now. Cant handle seeing us playing them again. I agree - but what a sad state football is in when you think like that - and it's not an uncommon view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, terrytini said: I was specifically referring to the OP questioning why, with all the defensive experience in the coaching staff, the defence appears so shaky. Leaving aside they were against a fantastic team, my view is that the reason was because of the non existent protection offered by the midfield. If we are talking more generally, I don’t think in terms of players we have as many problems as some do. I don’t think our players are inferior to many of those in the teams around us. But we need everyone at their best. ( as do those other teams) and recently that’s not been the case in several games. The midfield selection didn't make any sense today. As soon as I saw Hourihane I was confused, he is useless without the ball, completely passive. So why he is starting against the team with the best ball retention in Europe? With Drinkwater I though ok, he must have really impressed in training and looked fit. But turns out he was way off the pace! I suppose we could have gone with Nakamba and Trez again and still got hammered by 6. But at least the selection would have made a bit more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlico_Villa Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, terrytini said: I was specifically referring to the OP questioning why, with all the defensive experience in the coaching staff, the defence appears so shaky. Leaving aside they were against a fantastic team, my view is that the reason was because of the non existent protection offered by the midfield. If we are talking more generally, I don’t think in terms of players we have as many problems as some do. I don’t think our players are inferior to many of those in the teams around us. But we need everyone at their best. ( as do those other teams) and recently that’s not been the case in several games. We play 5 at the back (it isn’t a wing back system) and 2 holding midfielders. That’s effectively 7 at the back, so O think the defence does get protection from the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Whilst not Wesley's strength we missed having someone who could hold the ball for a few seconds and let the structure move forward. We have no options for that until A Striker comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, villalad21 said: Deeney said in his post match interview today that the first thing Pearson did was working with getting the basics right. We are all over the place. There is no structure or organization. Someone like Big Sam would do that for us. We’d probably still have lost today but it wouldn’t have been humiliating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Blasterpocket68 said: we need some consistency today and balance . Week in week out were changing formations and players. You cant ever settle like this. He need to make up his mind ! What's disappointing is we expected a very difficult game and probably a defeat. I didn't expect us to give them the freedom of villa Park. Pathetic. ! Interesting - some Posters think he’s too rigid. For me it’s less about the system and more about getting a high level of performance from those picked. Thats not happening often enough. I appreciate it’s tough for a newly promoted and newly built side, particularly the more hidden mental side, but above all else Deanos job is to get the most out the players. I feel he has done so pretty well until a few weeks ago. Now the below par performances are outweighing the decent ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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