Christian Purslow

[The_Steve]

1 hour ago, Zatman said:

He is still making the mistake thats the problem. If he had cut his mate Gerrard at the end of last season then he wouldn't be getting this grief

Nor is there any evidence that he gave his “mate” this job. It’s just speculation or the words of failed recruits like Suso. Purslow is a professional after all.  

[Zatman]

6 minutes ago, The_Steve said:

Nor is there any evidence that he gave his “mate” this job. It’s just speculation or the words of failed recruits like Suso. Purslow is a professional after all.  

If he was so professional he would not have hired then not sack this unqualified buffoon. If he is professional then he is out of his depth

Continuous Improvement laughable

[jackbauer24]

Most managers get sacked. Very few leave of their own choice or for better jobs. It's probably 90%+ who will inevitably get sacked or leave through mutual agreement.

With that in mind, Purslow simply must have considered this day would come when he first hired his friend. They surely had this conversation and would have some agreement in place to separate business from friendship.

I don't believe for a second that people in these roles don't consider these highly likely circumstances.

Therefore, more concerning, is the notion that it isn't actually a discussion at all at the moment. He's not protecting a friend because that scenario has been discussed a year ago... they are all in agreement that there isn't anything to consider yet. I imagine they've probably said he gets a year regardless before there is even a debate.

Edited October 19, 2022 by jackbauer24

[tomav84]

40 minutes ago, jackbauer24 said:

Most managers get sacked. Very few leave of their own choice or for better jobs. It's probably 90%+ who will inevitably get sacked or leave through mutual agreement.

With that in mind, Purslow simply must have considered this day would come when he first hired his friend. They surely had this conversation and would have some agreement in place to separate business from friendship.

I don't believe for a second that people in these roles don't consider these highly likely circumstances.

Therefore, more concerning, is the notion that it isn't actually a discussion at all at the moment. He's not protecting a friend because that scenario has been discussed a year ago... they are all in agreement that there isn't anything to consider yet. I imagine they've probably said he gets a year regardless before there is even a debate.

dont you remember how worried everyone was that gerrard would get poached by liverpool at first? i'd say they would've thought that was the most likely route that he would leave the club

[Tomaszk]

1 hour ago, The_Steve said:

Nor is there any evidence that he gave his “mate” this job. It’s just speculation or the words of failed recruits like Suso. Purslow is a professional after all.  

Huh?

Steven Gerrard is our manager. Do you need more evidence?

[Demitri_C]

4 hours ago, Zatman said:

He is still making the mistake thats the problem. If he had cut his mate Gerrard at the end of last season then he wouldn't be getting this grief

I thinknit would have been knee jerk to sack him tbh. He wasnt given a full summer or pre season to turn it around so i get why they didnt axe him.

Its like when smith got hammered 4-0 by Leicester then covid hit he turned it around kept us up. Guessing purslow was hoping for same thing.

[Tomaszk]

He can't be trusted to sack Gerrard if we keep picking up points.

We will go down if he stays. He doesn't know what he's doing.

I want Villa to lose so he's forced to sack Gerrard. Really grim.

Edited October 19, 2022 by Tomaszk

[Made In Aston]

18 hours ago, KMitch said:

The only bad call Purslow has made in the past 4 seasons has been to hire Gerrard and Hell, if we manage to pull off hiring Poch, Tuchel, or Emery as his replacement it wouldn't even be that big of a blemish on his track record...  He's also made so many brilliant moves... 

• Sacking Bruce & hiring Deano,
• Taking us from mid table in the Championship to mid table in the Premier League in 3 seasons
• Fleecing Man City for Grealish
• Securing Coutinho on loan at a fraction of his value then paying under the sticker price for him on a permanent deal
• Investing heavily in the academy and women's team
• Expanding/upgrading Villa Park and creating a downtown academy setup

People calling for him to be sacked are ridiculous.  

You are right. Between Purslow and Lange we have got some great value in the transfer market. The club is also generally well run behind the scenes.

I wouldn't go as far as demand we sack them, but I think their roles need to be more tightly laid out. I don't think Purslow is the right person to appoint managers and the player recruitment strategy hasn't been well thought out or implemented by either man. Perhaps it means recruiting a specialist to the board who brings complimentary skills and can bridge Purslow and Lange's weaker areas. 

Edited October 19, 2022 by Made In Aston

[The_Steve]

42 minutes ago, Tomaszk said:

I want Villa to lose so he's forced to sack Gerrard. Really grim.

You’re welcome to that view - I just will never want us to lose willingly. Gerrard will be sacked soon enough. 

[Tomaszk]

1 minute ago, The_Steve said:

You’re welcome to that view - I just will never want us to lose willingly. Gerrard will be sacked soon enough. 

I want us to stay up more than I want us to win the odd game so Gerrard stays long enough to take us down.

[Keyblade]

If we draw tomorrow, Purslow will look really silly if he doesn't sack him within 2 days like he did for Smith. It would be identical scenarios (10 points from 11 games), apart from the fact that he doesn't have 3 years of credit in the bank.

Actually it will be worse because it's an easier start, and we have a much stronger squad now.

Edited October 19, 2022 by Keyblade

[Tomaszk]

8 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

If we draw tomorrow, Purslow will look really silly if he doesn't sack him within 2 days like he did for Smith. It would be identical scenarios (10 points from 11 games), apart from the fact that he doesn't have 3 years of credit in the bank.

Actually it will be worse because it's an easier start, and we have a much stronger squad now.

Much worse. But I don't think he will.

It's 100% down to him and he'll have to sell some spiel to the owners why he was given the job.

So much good work undone.

[ender4]

56 minutes ago, Keyblade said:

If we draw tomorrow, Purslow will look really silly if he doesn't sack him within 2 days like he did for Smith. It would be identical scenarios (10 points from 11 games), apart from the fact that he doesn't have 3 years of credit in the bank.

Actually it will be worse because it's an easier start, and we have a much stronger squad now.

Completely agree. 

But I think we’ll win at Fulham, stumble onto Brentford and lose… waste another week then finally sack him. 

[DCJonah]

20 hours ago, KMitch said:

The only bad call Purslow has made in the past 4 seasons has been to hire Gerrard and Hell, if we manage to pull off hiring Poch, Tuchel, or Emery as his replacement it wouldn't even be that big of a blemish on his track record...  He's also made so many brilliant moves... 

• Sacking Bruce & hiring Deano,
• Taking us from mid table in the Championship to mid table in the Premier League in 3 seasons
• Fleecing Man City for Grealish
• Securing Coutinho on loan at a fraction of his value then paying under the sticker price for him on a permanent deal
• Investing heavily in the academy and women's team
• Expanding/upgrading Villa Park and creating a downtown academy setup

People calling for him to be sacked are ridiculous.  

And yet here we are 1 point from relegation. 

I think you give him way too much credit for some things. 

As I've said before, he's escaped scrutiny on some awful recruitment decisions thanks to excellent work from Dean and Grealish.

[KMitch]

1 hour ago, DCJonah said:

And yet here we are 1 point from relegation. 

I think you give him way too much credit for some things. 

As I've said before, he's escaped scrutiny on some awful recruitment decisions thanks to excellent work from Dean and Grealish.

1 point from relegation with plenty of time to correct the situation. Believe me, you won’t find a more ardent Gerrard Out supporter than I am, but I’m not letting the Gerrard appointment change my opinion of Purslow. 
 

Also, to his credit, he did sack Suso for signing a lot of duds that summer. Lange hit big the next summer on Martinez, Cash, Watkins, and Traore and the jury is still out on a lot of last year’s signings because of Gerrard’s hilariously bad tactics and man management. 

[Tomaszk]

He can prove he's competent to me by sacking Gerrard after these next two games.

Ideal scenario is we win both and he still gets the boot.

[Thug]

14 hours ago, The_Steve said:

Nor is there any evidence that he gave his “mate” this job. It’s just speculation or the words of failed recruits like Suso. Purslow is a professional after all.  

Apart from the fact that he’s his mate and he got the job, of course.

[The_Steve]

7 hours ago, Thug said:

Apart from the fact that he’s his mate and he got the job, of course.

Again, this isn’t the case. Purslow had twice earmarked Lage (before appointing Smith and after) so the idea that he only ever wanted to appoint Gerrard is simply not true. The hatred people have for Purslow who’s been nothing but professional and worked wonders on the commercial side of things is utterly baffling. 

[Tomaszk]

Just now, The_Steve said:

Again, this isn’t the case. Purslow had twice earmarked Lage (before appointing Smith and after) so the idea that he only ever wanted to appoint Gerrard is simply not true. The hatred people have for Purslow who’s been nothing but professional and worked wonders on the commercial side of things is utterly baffling. 

Earmarked? Right, great. He appointed Gerrard.

What wonders has Purslow worked please?

[The_Steve]

Just now, Tomaszk said:

Earmarked? Right, great. He appointed Gerrard.

What wonders has Purslow worked please?

You do know how managerial shortlists work right? 
 

Negotiated Jack’s release clause, got £15-20m for Carney, secured bigger marketing opportunities and sponsorships (though I regret that they’ve been dodgy betting malarkey so points down), but compared to the charlatans we’ve had before, shall we go back to the likes of Keith Wyness? Tom Fox?