AvfcRigo82 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Just now, Nigel said: Yes 'out of position', hes a veteran right back who played left back for one season, regardless of how he performed. Its moot anyway as we need someone younger faster and more attacking in that role. To replace Taylor as let's be honest, he is not going to cut it here with us, even in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: We definately don't. The club has 7 over the 2 positions (excluding Hutton), these are the least 2 positions we need to focus on imo. 2 CB's and a ST for me should be our next priority. Maybe Snoddy and someone to replace Taylor on the left on the wide positions too. I was joking mate. How would we sort wide area and top of the pitch with a GK or RB? The worrying part is that Bruce didn’t mention our need for a CB. We definitely need one. I think we could wait until January for a LB. But we definitely need a winger, defender and a striker. Two cb’s I think is too much, one good quality and we will have also a good back up in Tuanzebe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 17, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: To replace Taylor as let's be honest, he is not going to cut it here with us, even in this league. Yes, but id bet it will be to come in as a starter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, abdulaziz1 said: I was joking mate. How would we sort wide area and top of the pitch with a GK or RB? The worrying part is that Bruce didn’t mention our need for a CB. We definitely need one. I think we could wait until January for a LB. But we definitely need a winger, defender and a striker. Two cb’s I think is too much, one good quality and we will have also a good back up in Tuanzebe. Yes yes, was not being shirty mate. If Elphick is deemed surplus we would possibly need 2 as cover to Chester and Zeb, as Suliman also now gone out on loan to Holland. Bruce still reckons 3 or 4 in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Nigel said: Yes, but id bet it will be to come in as a starter Would be a shame as I think Hutton does a brilliant job there too but would be a big ask to expext him to play every game with him being 34 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Would love to see this but I think I’m dreaming, can’t see Bruce playing such an attacking team but, if we we got the right players in, we should be able to blow most teams away in this division. New Striker Kodjia/Green. New WF/Adomah Grealish Hourihane/DM McGinn New LB New CB. Chester. De Laet Nyland Hutton & Elmo are decent backup but not good enough to be starters for a promotion chasing team imo. Suspect and error prone defensively. I wouldn’t mind letting either of them leave but they are useful for squad depth and options. I would like to see Bree more involved too, if not then allowed to leave on loan. Tuanzebe gives us decent defensive cover, at CB preferably. Could rotate regularly with either CB. I would like to see us sell Jedinak, too old, slow and injury & error prone. Whelan is ok for DM cover and Bjarnason gives us options. Strikers are injured except for RHM who would work better as a WF in our team, a good option off the bench. Never a lone forward or target man but would be good in a front two. O’Hare will be a good option for us when he returns from injury too. In this case, would be happy for us to shift Taylor & Elphick (would be needed in case of an injury crisis though). And, again, Jedinak although I do appreciate his service and leadership. Probably Lansbury too as he’s not getting a look in. Hope we do end up releasing Richards and McCormack. That would only leave Tsihbola to get rid of somehow, he’s not going to be reintegrated by the looks of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: To replace Taylor as let's be honest, he is not going to cut it here with us, even in this league. he was brilliant at Swansea and was honestly going to the top!! before he was out for nearly a year then had get back to full fitness (was out for 231 days) and Ben Davies (Now Spurs) took over his role (Think Davies debut was against us just after Taylor was out) no doubt he was going to top But as usual Villa probably didn't do due diligence on stuff like this, previous injuries on targets and he is not the same as before the Malleolar injury. Edited August 17, 2018 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: he was brilliant at Swansea before he was out for nearly a year then had get back to full fitness (was out for 231 days) and Ben Davies (Now Spurs) took over his role (Think Davies debut was against us just after Taylor was out) no doubt he was going to top But as usual Villa don't do due diligence on stuff like this and he is not the same as before the Malleolar injury. He had played 2 full seasons for Swansea and had a good Euro 2016. He even started well for Villa and then went downhill after the Coleman tackle he hasnt recovered from that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: He had played 2 full seasons for Swansea and had a good Euro 2016. He even started well for Villa and then went downhill after the Coleman tackle he hasnt recovered from that He was even better before that though was best left back outside Premier League (season they got promoted with Fabio Borini on loan who was also very good at time for Brendan Rodgers) he wasn't best outside Prem at Euro 2016 due to the severe injury! that was my point i was getting out! prefer get players on the way up not the way down after serious injury!! He was average in those 2 seasons before we signed him for Swansea Edited August 17, 2018 by Villan4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: he was brilliant at Swansea and was honestly going to the top!! before he was out for nearly a year then had get back to ful l fitness (was out for 231 days) and Ben Davies (Now Spurs) took over his role (Think Davies debut was against us just after Taylor was out) no doubt he was going to top. But as usual Villa probably didn't do due diligence on stuff like this, previous injuries on targets and he is not the same as before the Malleolar injury. Some good points well made above. He's also gone noticeably downhill since he broke Coleman's leg and was sent off playing for Wales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 minute ago, John said: Some good points well made above. He's also gone noticeably downhill since he broke Coleman's leg and was sent off playing for Wales. Fair enough dude, just thought he was average for us before he even broke Coleman's leg! but beauty of us all having different opinions on players that's what i love about football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 14 hours ago, fightoffyour said: And we now have a Clark and a Clarke in the U23s! Although Clark (I think) has just gone out on loan, so Clark could come in on loan to take his place. E’s no good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: E’s no good Everything starts with an ''E'' (old schoooool) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Do what we can now as I feel we will do more business in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Villan4Life said: Fair enough dude, just thought he was average for us before he even broke Coleman's leg! but beauty of us all having different opinions on players that's what i love about football. He played 8 games for us then and we were on a 6 game win streak in a row with zero goals conceded before that Ireland vs Wales game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, John said: Some good points well made above. He's also gone noticeably downhill since he broke Coleman's leg and was sent off playing for Wales. He really hasn't. No disrespect but I feel fairly confident in saying that as a staunch Welshman I've seen a lot more of Taylor's earlier career than most on here. As someone tried to make clear further up, he lost it after his own injury, never came back the same player. Before that he was top notch. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Tomas Kalas , Tammy Abraham and Odegaard /Maddison would be very solid additions. For LB I don't really care as Hutton is more than capable. Edited August 17, 2018 by Made In Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: He really hasn't. No disrespect but I feel fairly confident in saying that as a staunch Welshman I've seen a lot more of Taylor's earlier career than most on here. As someone tried to make clear further up, he lost it after his own injury, never came back the same player. Before that he was top notch. Fair enough. I think his performances for us have become worse following his sending off, I guess his performances had slipped before he joined us as well then (as Villan4Life & yourself have indicated and Dick has agreed) no doubt he would have been harder to shift from Swansea had they not done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Mazrim said: Ditto you heard 4 or 5 or ditto you were bombing down the M40? I can't be sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, jim said: I can't be sure https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1534482000/1534487400/ He said "we'll bring in 3 or 4 or 5 hopefully" on 13.24 minutes above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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