villa4europe Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, penguin said: MOTD saying the Arsenal goal should have stood. Xhaka is literally standing right in front of the GK and has to jump out the way of the ball, if that isn’t having an influence on play what is? The offside rule is a **** joke at the moment. Pet peeve of mine, not even sure if “influence” is written in the rules but the likes of the one we had vs Man City last season are infuriating and possibly the biggest example of officials don’t understand football, of course a guy stood in the 6 yard box is influencing the keepers decision making 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted October 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: Pet peeve of mine, not even sure if “influence” is written in the rules but the likes of the one we had vs Man City last season are infuriating and possibly the biggest example of officials don’t understand football, of course a guy stood in the 6 yard box is influencing the keepers decision making This is true, but Xhaka is literally stepping on GK toes when the corner is taken and backing into him. He doesn't move from the position - granted - but it does force the GK to move. As such he's in an offside position when the header happened. He never strayed from that position and clearly influenced the keepers decision to move. Correct call, for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 If you see the camera angle from directly behind the goal you can see acres of space between the keeper and Xhaka. Xhaka being stood where he was had zero bearing on what the goalkeeper did. But Xhaka did have to proactively get out of the way of the ball so I think it could have been called either way. Another grey area in the rules and a subjective decision, another one that VAR cannot solve but still we persist with it and expect it to some day work so perfectly that these situations don’t occur, which will never happen unless we change the rules of football to make it clinical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) Yesterday was the first time this season that a ref went to the monitor but kept the original decision (disagreed with VAR). Brighton player "won" the ball and went on to score from the resulting attack. This was the best clip I could find. Ref was literally 2m away from the live play and spent about 2 mins watching it back on the monitor, but decided no foul committed by the Brighton player. Ref was probably just making things even for this absolute bollocks pen given earlier in the match. Kane makes no attempt for the ball (is looking at the man to see where the contact will be) and places Lallana in danger of injury by purposely clattering into him while airborne, yet somehow gets a pen. Edited November 2, 2020 by a-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Get rid of it, adds zero value to the game. Negative value in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Show some common sense 1) Is he offside? yes, ok 2) Watch it in real time and check whether it made a difference (it didn't) you may as well not play the game and do it all via stats and odds if they're officiating the game like this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-k Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It is now clear and obvious that the "clear and obvious" aspect of VAR is just a sham...if you have to spend four minutes to make a decision, THE REFEREE HAS NOT MADE AN OBVIOUS ERROR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Show some common sense 1) Is he offside? yes, ok 2) Watch it in real time and check whether it made a difference (it didn't) you may as well not play the game and do it all via stats and odds if they're officiating the game like this 5 goalkeepers on the line wouldn't have saved that. Ridiculous decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 00:01, villa4europe said: Pet peeve of mine, not even sure if “influence” is written in the rules but the likes of the one we had vs Man City last season are infuriating and possibly the biggest example of officials don’t understand football, of course a guy stood in the 6 yard box is influencing the keepers decision making 2 weeks old... Barkley was offside 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jimzk5 said: 5 goalkeepers on the line wouldn't have saved that. Ridiculous decision That's not the rule 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Is VAR anything to do with Trump, has to be involved some how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 No var thats a goal. i think the intefering with play rule is nonsense. Got to use common sense. Goalkeeper wouldnt have saved it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Apparently now it can make time disappear as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Technically it probably was the right decision but I still don't know why the law isn't if you have any part of the body inline it's onside. That's not a VAR thing, just a general rule thing that annoys me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: That's not the rule I know that That's why var and the refs need to use common sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Jimzk5 said: I know that That's why var and the refs need to use common sense But to me it is common sense What they need to do is apply that rule more and be consistent with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: But to me it is common sense What they need to do is apply that rule more and be consistent with it It took nearly 5 minutes to arrive at a decision that without var, wouldn't have been mentioned after the game, it was a good goal Yet VAR determines an inch offside, against a shot that would never be saved is ruled out, after 5 fuxking minutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Oh yeah that I definitley agree with It didn't need VAR to check that was offside and get the lines out, it was blatant, what it needed was Atkinson to take a 30 second look and say interfering with play or not That's the decision that needed making Disagree that no one talks about it after, if arsenal score that vs us I'd be moaning about it for the rest of the year, I'm still moaning about man city's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) Not VAR per se, but it's amazing how infuriating it can be and then a non-VAR game comes along and shows just how much it's needed... Edited November 8, 2020 by MessiWillSignForVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Barkley was offside BUT he has no role in Leno saving the shot. He is never saving that whatever angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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