mockingbird_franklin Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 listen to Tory Jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp_villa830 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, darrenm said: Not charismatic enough. Not a leader. Unelectable Empty seats my lord... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Won't mean much but that's a hell of a swing in polls since the election was announced. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, magnkarl said: Definition of socialism: a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. Big difference between ownership and regulation, surely? Not that I'd disagree with a broad definition of socialism. It's been used by, and for, so many different movements and theories throughout history I don't think any one particular kind can claim ownership to the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swerbs Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Won't mean much but that's a hell of a swing in polls since the election was announced. Such.. Momentum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, darrenm said: Not charismatic enough. Not a leader. Unelectable All well and good, but half of those people are probably 16-18, part of Momentum, brought there in buses and given a free meal just like Theresa has her blue buses full of young Tories going up and down the country. I'm too old to believe in shit like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Won't mean much but that's a hell of a swing in polls since the election was announced. It all matters in terms of reducing May's majority. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StefanAVFC Posted May 20, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted May 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, magnkarl said: All well and good, but half of those people are probably 16-18, part of Momentum, brought there in buses and given a free meal just like Theresa has her blue buses full of young Tories going up and down the country. I'm too old to believe in shit like that. Erm, it's a concert for the Libertines... A band from over 10 years ago. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Erm, it's a concert for the Libertines... A band from over 10 years ago. Lol! I had a senior moment! call the NHS! Time to lay off the tipple for tonight. Thanks for not making fun. Edited May 20, 2017 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted May 20, 2017 Moderator Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, magnkarl said: call the NHS! While we still can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I'm posting this here because the Tories have announced their plans to ditch the final implementation of Leveson in their manifesto. So, the guy who stopped that malware attack two weeks ago, posts anonymously on the internet, and didn't want his name or address published for understandable security reasons, so naturally: Still, whatever keeps Paul Dacre on side is the national priority, right? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 "A government that cares about sport culture and the arts and gives you space to play and rehearse your music" Or "Strong and stable leadership" If Labour get near then it is down to a positive hopeful vision and the absolute failings of a robotic pseudo Tory May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 i'll be honest and say i havent looked at the details but this end the 0 hour contract stuff, when i was a yoof working at GAME i was on a 4 hour contract, i got paid for about 40 hours a week on average (how many i actually worked was shocking) what are they actually saying? all these retail companies will start giving out contracts that reflect the hours of a full time job? or that in reality very little will change, 0 will turn to 4, no one is surviving off 4 hours a week either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 21 minutes ago, magnkarl said: All well and good, but half of those people are probably 16-18, part of Momentum, brought there in buses and given a free meal just like Theresa has her blue buses full of young Tories going up and down the country. I'm too old to believe in shit like that. As others have said, it's just a random concert in the Tranmere Rovers ground. I'm assuming the Libertines are Corbyn/Labour fans so let him on stage. Easy to mistake it as some organised rally though. What makes this remarkable is 1 how confident he is that he can go into the middle of a rock concert and not get booed off stage and 2 how a random quadrant of gig attendees are chanting his name by the end. Yes it doesn't translate into votes but he's obviously moved from the fans bubble into generally popular, at the expense of May, who's giving everything she's got to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jareth said: If Labour get near then it is down to a positive hopeful vision and the absolute failings of a robotic pseudo Tory May. if labour get near then it'll be because of "anyone but the tories" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: if labour get near then it'll be because of "anyone but the tories" It'll be because even though the Telegraph, Mail, Sun and Express are holding up their end of the bargain, May and cohorts are pointing a machine gun at their feet and holding down the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockingbird_franklin Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 34 minutes ago, magnkarl said: Theresa has her blue buses full of young Tories I remember seeing one of these in a picture with mrs may in, looked quite a big crowd till another photo was leaked to show it was actually about 20 party members photographed creatively to give the appearence of a big crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, darrenm said: As others have said, it's just a random concert in the Tranmere Rovers ground. I'm assuming the Libertines are Corbyn/Labour fans so let him on stage. Easy to mistake it as some organised rally though. What makes this remarkable is 1 how confident he is that he can go into the middle of a rock concert and not get booed off stage and 2 how a random quadrant of gig attendees are chanting his name by the end. Yes it doesn't translate into votes but he's obviously moved from the fans bubble into generally popular, at the expense of May, who's giving everything she's got to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. All he was doing was giving a little history lesson in how football and music came from the working class, and talking that up as a good thing. He is running a positive campaign, entrenched in the British way of life and culture. It's the sort of thing Farage thought he had cornered, and like you, I look at that appearance at Tranmere and get a real sense that he is getting confident. Then the polls down to 9% difference from what 24% when May called the whole thing? Labour don't need to win this, they just need to return May with the same majority and her own party will do the rest. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, mockingbird_franklin said: I remember seeing one of these in a picture with mrs may in, looked quite a big crowd till another photo was leaked to show it was actually about 20 party members photographed creatively to give the appearence of a big crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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