Jareth Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, ender4 said: Second place is averaging 1.88 points per game (ppg), and looks like finishing the season on 87 points. Villa would need another 43 points from 20 games to finish on 87 points. That means we need 2.15 ppg for the rest of the season. We have currently been averaging 1.69 ppg. It doesn't look good honestly when you look at the numbers. We need a massive improvement for the rest of the season. I look at this and see us on 1.69 ppg and needing to be on at least 1.88 points per game - not that big a gap. Yes we need to pick up the 5 points but we have a shot at that with all our home games against the top teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: I look at this and see us on 1.69 ppg and needing to be on at least 1.88 points per game - not that big a gap. Yes we need to pick up the 5 points but we have a shot at that with all our home games against the top teams. Yes, by the end of the season we need to be on 1.88ppg, which means we need 2.15ppg for the rest of the season to achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, villa82 said: Realistically we should bee very happy with 2 points per game for the rest of the season. If Derby then beat us we can't blame the second part of the season. Beat Derby at home, and that might tip it our way. 4 wins and a draw in the next five games is not realistic. We are huge favorites in two games (Barnsley and Burton), small favourites vs small heat, underdogs vs SheffU and equal vs NottForest. That are realistically 10 points from the five games. Depending on other results, that can bee ok. More than 10 points are very good (but not if we don't win against "them") I'd take 4 wins and a defeat to them to be honest. I know many wouldn't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ender4 said: Yes, by the end of the season we need to be on 1.88ppg, which means we need 2.15ppg for the rest of the season to achieve that. What if we take our first 3 games? Our season started against Norwich for me. Before that we looked a complete shambles. Edit :Makes us on 1.86 ppg. Edited January 9, 2018 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 WHAT IF - Wolves went and blew FFP and found themselves stripped of promotion - this is actually possible now with the rules. 3rd place gets promotion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Assuming we beat Derby on the last day of the season (big ask!), we simply have to match all their results but 1...where we should win where they lose. Not terribly undoable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jareth said: WHAT IF - Wolves went and blew FFP and found themselves stripped of promotion - this is actually possible now with the rules. 3rd place gets promotion! Wolves, know they are going up and are preparing accordingly, but its interesting the type of technically gifted players they go for. we spend 21mill on Darren Bent.....I know its some time ago, but that is the difference in judgement, that has us where we are. Nuno clearly knows these players, as he has not scored in 12 games for Mlan.....so its a fair ole lump. Edited January 9, 2018 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 10 minutes ago, Jareth said: WHAT IF - Wolves went and blew FFP and found themselves stripped of promotion - this is actually possible now with the rules. 3rd place gets promotion! Can someone please explain WTF Has happened to FFP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted January 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kingman said: Can someone please explain WTF Has happened to FFP? I don’t think FFP comes into it if you go from the championship to the premier league. Different rules I think. Say if wolves spent £50m this transfer window and didn’t go up, that would be a disaster for them. But as they’re guaranteed promotion, it doesn’t matter. They’ve basically gambled and it’s paid off. I think that’s the case anyway. I also think that if they got relegated from the premier league next season, they would be in a world of shit. Again, I think that’s the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 We’ve got a bit of luck. We play Sheff Utd a few days after their cup game and we’ll have had a 10 day break. Now let’s win the next 4 and then going out the cup so disgracefully May have a silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 33 minutes ago, Jareth said: WHAT IF - Wolves went and blew FFP and found themselves stripped of promotion - this is actually possible now with the rules. 3rd place gets promotion! They’ll be promoted before these accounts are looked at. They’re building for the Premier League and signing players now is brilliant as long as they go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 It could of course also be Twitter bullcrap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, omariqy said: You got your wish, we are playing them 3 days later on the 30th. Thats great news helps us later on the season. Last thing we need a tricky game squashed between a game vs wolves for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Kingman said: Can someone please explain WTF Has happened to FFP? I could be wrong, but overspending the rules and the league can and will slap the maximum penalty on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted January 9, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, TRO said: Wolves, know they are going up and are preparing accordingly, but its interesting the type of technically gifted players they go for. we spend 21mill on Darren Bent.....I know its some time ago, but that is the difference in judgement, that has us where we are. Nuno clearly knows these players, as he has not scored in 12 games for Mlan.....so its a fair ole lump. Milan are a total **** mess at the moment though, playing very very badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 would be interesting to see the top 2 at this point in the last 10 seasons compared to the end of the season, and the points differential change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, romavillan said: Milan are a total **** mess at the moment though, playing very very badly. oh, ok....thanks for the info Edited January 9, 2018 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 3 hours ago, Kingman said: Can someone please explain WTF Has happened to FFP? I understand what it is but not sure how it works and what affect it has on an on going basis. If we stay down, is it like Japanese Knotwood, you never get free of it? .....Unless you get promotion. does it get relaxed or an amnesty of some kind, like bookings.....new season,new slate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 1 hour ago, a m ole said: would be interesting to see the top 2 at this point in the last 10 seasons compared to the end of the season, and the points differential change. Newcastle and Brighton were on a lot more points at this stage last season. I really don't see second getting 90 points. There is no stand out second team in this league. We should be targeting 10 points from our next 4 so if we can achieve that let's see the state of play then. Derby have some tricky games coming up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Jareth said: I could be wrong, but overspending the rules and the league can and will slap the maximum penalty on. Didn’t something similar happen to Bournemouth or QPR a couple of seasons ago?.. Hopefully a points deduction will suffice in this day and age. Someone tweet the Doc and snitch on the dingles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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