VillaCas Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: You can't seem to provide me with evidence that McCormack was a 'fantastic trainer' before he came to the Villa nor that Steve Bruce is at fault for that situation. So no, that isn't what you said. You've moved the goalposts. See I happen to know, for an absolute fact, that Ross was drinking heavily before Bruce arrived. I could prove it in a court of law. I would never have mentioned it but to be honest, at this stage **** him. It's not right to mug the support off like he has and especially not his manager. He (Bruce) is doing a fine job of it himself without people making up bollocks. Everything Ross has done is on him and nobody else. So you want me to provide "evidence and sources" but your anecdotes are to be taken as fact.......seems reasonable I've not 'moved the goalposts' - my point throughout is that I expected Bruce to get the best out of McCormack, Ayew and Amavi and he has not done so. McCormack was by all accounts brilliant for Forest on Saturday and capped his performance with a very well taken goal - if Bruce was the brilliant man-manager he is supposed to be he would have spent all his time getting a proven stand-out player firing on all cylinders, instead of wasting his time on Agbonlahor. I'm not sure how you are misunderstanding this??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: On the one hand I feel like ditching the 3-5-2 already is stupid when it hasn't been given a chance. If he has a plan then stick to it! On the other, I still feel our team is best suited to a 4-3-3, and still think that the majority of our good results this season have come using that formation. So I'd be happy to see us go back to that. Something like -----------Johnstone Bree-Chester-Baker-Amavi -------------Jedinak ------Lansbury-Hourihane Adomah-----------------Kodjia ----------------Hogan The 3-5-2 has failed miserably. Doesn't work needs to revert back to 4-3-3 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 7 hours ago, Eastie said: can see him dropping in another centre back the long awaited Micah Richards return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 hours ago, AshVilla said: What was the biblical saying. A wiseman builds his house on rock and not sand? I believe the original Aramaic read "A wise man knows his arse from his elbow". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 hour ago, VillaCas said: So you want me to provide "evidence and sources" but your anecdotes are to be taken as fact.......seems reasonable I've not 'moved the goalposts' - my point throughout is that I expected Bruce to get the best out of McCormack, Ayew and Amavi and he has not done so. McCormack was by all accounts brilliant for Forest on Saturday and capped his performance with a very well taken goal - if Bruce was the brilliant man-manager he is supposed to be he would have spent all his time getting a proven stand-out player firing on all cylinders, instead of wasting his time on Agbonlahor. I'm not sure how you are misunderstanding this??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Why oh why ,did we appoint this man ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassyNoel Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: Why oh why ,did we appoint this man ? Wonder if there's a gaffer we'd all agree on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 8 hours ago, Stevo985 said: You were serious? Wow. Do you not think there's a chance we would've achieved more under Sherwood then we have Bruce? PS not saying I want or miss Sherwood btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, GrassyNoel said: Wonder if there's a gaffer we'd all agree on... Probably not but this donut is beyond justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, KHV said: It wont be a midfield 2, it will be a midfield 3 I was thinking of a 442. But, if it's to be back to a 433 you're right. I just hope it includes Jedinak in front of the back four or we're back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 hours ago, ViewFromT2 said: With the likes of Mark Warburton now available, I think Bruce has to get us going very, very quickly to give us any hope at all for next season. If he doesn't....how long are we supposed to wait? Can I just ask, why do people hold Warburton in such high regard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Anyone else think that Lansbury would be well suited to playing in the hole behind Hogan, with Kodjia out wide left and Adomah wide right? Jedinak can do the defensive cover role with Hourihane being the fetching and carrying midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I don't ask for much. just that we press as a team and don't hoof the ball. is it a big ask? please oh please Bruce, go for the win. utilize your entire team with pressing football and don't play the counter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 To state the obvious, if you're aiming fo be one of the top five (was it? or ten?) teams in the world in five years, under what circumstances would you appoint Steve Bruce? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 13 minutes ago, villarocker said: Anyone else think that Lansbury would be well suited to playing in the hole behind Hogan, with Kodjia out wide left and Adomah wide right? Jedinak can do the defensive cover role with Hourihane being the fetching and carrying midfielder. That's far too complicated for Bruce to even think about. More like SB: "Surely you know how to hoof, you're a footballer?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I said I think we will be pleasantly surprised and suggested he'd go 442 and a very attacking and pressing game. But just as likely 433. The formstion won't really matter though, if as I suspect we simply adopt a very aggressive attacking approach it will be for the opposition to answer the problems we set and a less defensive midfield set up won't matter. Attack will be our best form of defence. Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I can't fully remember Bruce as a player, was he a hoofer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hic !...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, terrytini said: Hic !...... Hic Villa, hic salta? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: Do you not think there's a chance we would've achieved more under Sherwood then we have Bruce? PS not saying I want or miss Sherwood btw. Not even for one millisecond do I think that. In fact forcing myself to think about it has genuinely made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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