Dodgyknees Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, NurembergVillan said: It's been the same at Villa Park for years. Teams that come and set up as a compact unit with a view to hitting us on the break have always had some level of joy at VP. Millwall had a lot of pace, and this is the slowest Villa team I can remember, so we found ourselves fortunate to get a point in a game that, on paper, we should have won. Three things don't help: Balls to the wide men, we lose possession and they break. No movement from players, we lose possession and they break. No patience on the ball, we cannot pass and move in any way and the ball ends up going to a Millwall player and they break. It has been an issue for a long time, but if we set up with more patience we would force them into mistakes. We need to work on keeping the ball, less balls out wide to be lost, less from the right sided defender going on runs to lose the ball and so on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, NurembergVillan said: It's been the same at Villa Park for years. Teams that come and set up as a compact unit with a view to hitting us on the break have always had some level of joy at VP. Millwall had a lot of pace, and this is the slowest Villa team I can remember, so we found ourselves fortunate to get a point in a game that, on paper, we should have won. Yep needed a goal early when we were on top. After that it became quite predictable with Johnstone earning us a point. Bruce doesn't really have a plan b. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Not once have we been in our target position this year. And we don't look capable of achieving the target set in the summer. We might make the playoffs. Of course dropped points is going to cause people to be negative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Dick said: Three things don't help: Balls to the wide men, we lose possession and they break. No movement from players, we lose possession and they break. No patience on the ball, we cannot pass and move in any way and the ball ends up going to a Millwall player and they break. It has been an issue for a long time, but if we set up with more patience we would force them into mistakes. We need to work on keeping the ball, less balls out wide to be lost, less from the right sided defender going on runs to lose the ball and so on. We are not a very intelligent team. Lost count of how many times players tryed to go on a runs and lost it. I love Albert but he was guilty of this so many times today. Run in to space. Not in to a crowd of players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: We are not a very intelligent team. Lost count of how many times players tryed to go on a runs and lost it. I love Albert but he was guilty of this so many times today. Run in to space. Not in to a crowd of players! Yep that is another thing, so make that four ways we lost the ball. Albert runs with the ball and tries to run in between two players, losing the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, bobzy said: If we don’t win = Bruce out. Its easier once you just accept it’ll be that way. Nah. I think it’s more a case of: In the top 2 - Bruce IN. Not in the top 2 - Bruce OUT which is pretty reasonable in my opinion. Edited December 9, 2017 by ender4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, ender4 said: Nah. I think it’s more a case of: In the top 2 - Bruce IN. Not in the top 2 - Bruce OUT. Well that was the clubs target this season. Guess its too much to expect him to achieve one target while he is here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junxs Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) I hope Bruce doesnt tell our defenders to pass to Johnstone to lump it forward at every opportunity. We seem to be doing it more and more with each passing game. Edited December 9, 2017 by Junxs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, tomav84 said: Yawn...here we go again Your right to opinion of course. The problem is though. Looking at the facts, he is more right than the „Bruce in“ will ever be. Bruce Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 48 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Too late now. unfortunately. We had our chance before the season started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Was Hutton injured? He didn't look like it from where i was sat but i refuse to believe that even Bruce would swap a RB with 20mins left and needing a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, av1 said: Was Hutton injured? He didn't look like it from where i was sat but i refuse to believe that even Bruce would swap a RB with 20mins left and needing a goal. Made worse by the fact he was about to bring Hogan on when Samba got injured and the last sub was gone. So basically Steve wasted a sub sub swapping a RB got a RB. Another example of his inability to swing a game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: Too late now. unfortunately. It‘s never to late to switch horses from one who‘ll never get you over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 9, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2017 50 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Well that was the clubs target this season. Guess its too much to expect him to achieve one target while he is here. i thought promotion was the target? not promotion via top 2? so will he be sacked if we go up via playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Absolutely awful today, there is just no movement at all. You've got players on the ball screaming for players to move about and nothing. We were very lucky as Millwall should've won quite comfortably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I said it before and Bruce is not the type of manager to go and win you games at 0-0 and that is my main fear with him. he was left with a creative midfielder and a striker on his bench at HOME. Granted I think Samba got injured but replacing your full backs is not an attacking move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 24 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i thought promotion was the target? not promotion via top 2? so will he be sacked if we go up via playoffs? We go up, then job done. But the whole message from the club all summer was that top 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, av1 said: Was Hutton injured? He didn't look like it from where i was sat but i refuse to believe that even Bruce would swap a RB with 20mins left and needing a goal. Could have been the fact Hutton just didnt overlap in the 2nd half , albert was trying to go it alone all the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: I said it before and Bruce is not the type of manager to go and win you games at 0-0 and that is my main fear with him. he was left with a creative midfielder and a striker on his bench at HOME. Granted I think Samba got injured but replacing your full backs is not an attacking move One of the worst substitutions I've seen all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 30 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i thought promotion was the target? not promotion via top 2? so will he be sacked if we go up via playoffs? I'd like him to be sacked regardless. But that's a different conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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