Villarocker Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Go a goal ahead and defend - wtf is that all about? It's so negative and dire to watch and all you find yourself doing is sitting there thinking "they will score next. It really is not good enough and, like Trent says, not good enough to get us up. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, Genie said: Lose = moan draw = moan win by the odd goal = moan win comprehensively = moan back to back wins = moan inbeaten run = moan Another moan-filled post. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, villarocker said: Go a goal ahead and defend - wtf is that all about? It's so negative and dire to watch and all you find yourself doing is sitting there thinking "they will score next. It really is not good enough and, like Trent says, not good enough to get us up. We invite pressure, it is no wonder we make mistakes. Sit deep, invite pressure and because there is no space to pass the ball into, we make mistakes time and time again which invites more and more pressure, leading to more mistakes. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Keyblade Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, Genie said: Lose = moan draw = moan win by the odd goal = moan win comprehensively = moan back to back wins = moan inbeaten run = moan You realize we're not QPR or Brentford right? Our ambition is to win the league given the resources we have and spent and the wealth of talent at our disposal. People aren't wrong in being concerned that this ambition won't be realized despite some good recent results. What you're implying is like Manchester City fans being completely satisfied with scraping past Burnleys and Swanseas a couple of times playing turgid football while United and Chelsea are 7 points clear of them already putting teams to the sword. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) we won. yay, good for us, never unhappy when we win. However, as per the spell when he first came into the club, grinding out results is not sustainable. Like last year, there's every chance that after this short run we could go another 10 games without winning. We may will win the next two games ( we should ) as burton and bolton are shitter sides but it won't really reveal anything overly positive if we do, aside from the fact that outspending smaller clubs by a massive amount allows you to get by with individual star quality - ala kodja last year. That's not me trying to take away credit if we do win, just saying, it woudn't be remarkably noteworthy. I'll caveat that by saying full credit could be given if we dominate and play well across the team for at least 70% of the match, but the rolling judgement of his 40 odd games would suggest caution on that possibility. Edited September 23, 2017 by Rodders 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andym Posted September 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2017 We saw this last season under Bruce. Before Christmas we were getting results, but the performances were not great and we were relying on late goals and the likes of Kodjia and Grealish to pull off some magic. Back then it was brushed aside with, 'well the result is all that matters'. But if you keep putting in poor performances, it will eventually come back to bite you, as seen after Christmas where we took 1 point from 8 games. I fear the same now. Play like we did today against the likes of Leeds, Wolves, Cardiff etc and we will lose. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted September 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Dick said: We invite pressure, it is no wonder we make mistakes. Sit deep, invite pressure and because there is no space to pass the ball into, we make mistakes time and time again which invites more and more pressure, leading to more mistakes. I said to the people who sit by me that if we continue to let them have so much of the ball eventually they would get through and punish us, and so it proved to be. We are so poor at ball retention and taking the ball. OK so you let them spray the ball about in non danger areas but if they have it for so long and you constantly give it back to them, eventually you will make a mistake, they will get some luck or someone will come out with some brilliance to make it happen. It's horrible to watch and gives you no enjoyment whatsoever and you are constantly on edge waiting for it to go wrong. Get rid, he is awful and I don't care that he got the result. It will go wrong too often to support a promotion charge. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, Keyblade said: You realize we're not QPR or Brentford right? Our ambition is to win the league given the resources we have and spent and the wealth of talent at our disposal. People aren't wrong in being concerned that this ambition won't be realized despite some good recent results. What you're implying is like Manchester City fans being completely satisfied with scraping past Burnleys and Swanseas a couple of times playing turgid football while United and Chelsea are 7 points clear of them already putting teams to the sword. Man City are buying the best talents in world football, are you really comparing them to Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just now, Genie said: Man City are buying the best talents in world football, are you really comparing them to Villa? Well, he is right. They are the richest team in that league and are expected to win games against others. He isn’t saying we are like for bloody like. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Man City are buying the best talents in world football, are you really comparing them to Villa? No? It's an analogy not a comparison. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, TrentVilla said: A good win and nice to win back to back but the football was dire. If people homestly think we will go up playing like that frankly I think they are kidding themselves just as Bruce seems to be about how his teams play. To be honest we played pretty shit but defended well most the game. We would have lost or drawn that game last season. I would say thwre has bern some progress. One of the key things for me this season is is other members of the team other than kodj are scoring. If.we keep growing in confidence i see no reason why we cant go up under him. Im not a fan of bruce but he has turned it around fact last few games. Can he keep it up? Next two games will tell us as after that the toughies come in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 It's awful stuff. We did this last year too, had a few decent results with bad performances. We'll be found out yet. Might not be Tuesday night or next Saturday but we'll be got. Never felt so deflated after a win. Seemingly by today's showing our plan A of attack is to get taylor and elmo to launch it to davis who holds it up for a guy in whelan who can't run and hourihane to come onto it. After that, we just wing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just now, Johnnyp said: It's awful stuff. We did this last year too, had a few decent results with bad performances. We'll be found out yet. Might not be Tuesday night or next Saturday but we'll be got. Never felt so deflated after a win. Seemingly by today's showing our plan A of attack is to get taylor and elmo to launch it to davis who holds it up for a guy in whelan who can't run and hourihane to come onto it. After that, we just wing it. Im not a bruce fan why are you deflated?? We won im delighted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: To be honest we played pretty shit but defended well most the game. We would have lost or drawn that game last season. I would say thwre has bern some progress. One of the key things for me this season is is other members of the team other than kodj are scoring. If.we keep growing in confidence i see no reason why we cant go up under him. Im not a fan of bruce but he has turned it around fact last few games. Can he keep it up? Next two games will tell us as after that the toughies come in Next two games tell us nothing. We'll probably beat Burton and Bolton playing no better than we did today. And steve Bruce will still be a crap manager . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Im not a bruce fan why are you deflated?? We won im delighted I'm glad we got the 3 points but you can't honestly say you enjoyed that or seen any progress going forward. Seriously like.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, Genie said: Lose = moan draw = moan win by the odd goal = moan win comprehensively = moan back to back wins = moan inbeaten run = moan Stuck in the championship = moan FFP issues in the summer = moan Long term damage = moan Nothing you've mentioned matters until we are back in the prem and he achieves the target set for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Next two games tell us nothing. We'll probably beat Burton and Bolton playing no better than we did today. And steve Bruce will still be a crap manager . You've already written off the next 2 games cos we'll probably win, pfff how annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Next two games tell us nothing. We'll probably beat Burton and Bolton playing no better than we did today. And steve Bruce will still be a crap manager . For the first time since probably MON I am very confident we will win 4 league games in a row. And i' d still have very little faith he will get us promoted. Win them though and he will be on the track to proving a lot of us wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'm happy we won but we seriously need to sort out our ability to hold on to the ball. Why do we always look like the away team no matter who we play? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) When we come up against a side with a bit of quality about them were going to come unstuck. We look bang average and midtable at best certainly not good enough to get in the top 6. Edited September 23, 2017 by AshVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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