Popular Post Grasshopper Posted October 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2017 54 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: FFS a local derby, particularly this local derby makes league position all but irrelevant. but its the sc*m and they are shyte 54 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: It was a decent point from a difficult match, made by the managers approach 54 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I'm losing the will on here, really am. hang on in there 54 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: I wish my life was more fulfilling so that I didn't feel the need to come and read all this utter crap. My life is very fulfilling, I need to read the utter crap to bring me down to earth a bit 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted October 31, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: FFS a local derby, particularly this local derby makes league position all but irrelevant. It was a decent point from a difficult match, I'm losing the will on here, really am. I wish my life was more fulfilling so that I didn't feel the need to come and read all this utter crap. In your opinion that is, which is what this forum is all about isn't it. Opinions! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 5 hours ago, briny_ear said: Hardly positive? We were being overrun and looked extremely likely to concede as they piled on their attacks. Jedinak came on and that turned around instantly. Within 5 minutes of him coming on we had 4 decent shots and in that last half hour we had 8 and nearly scored a couple of times. If that’s not seen as positive, I wonder if expectations are unrealistically high? Maybe switching to 442 with Davis and Kodg up front would have succeeded despite having failed so woefully against Wolves. I don’t know. I can sort of sympathise with Bruce for maybe being a bit wary about trying it given the pressure of the derby situation. But ignore me. I am a bit out of step these days with the general view tha Bruce is a coward, fool and dinosaur, so I may tend to give him more credit than he is due. I'd like to know how it got to the point where we were being completely overrun by a seemingly, not that good of a side ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: I'd like to know how it got to the point where we were being completely overrun by a seemingly, not that good of a side ? Brilliant question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 20 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: I'd like to know how it got to the point where we were being completely overrun by a seemingly, not that good of a side ? Hardly over run. Could have gone either way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 9 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: Brilliant question Nah, it’s really not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Grasshopper said: but its the sc*m and they are shyte made by the managers approach hang on in there My life is very fulfilling, I need to read the utter crap to bring me down to earth a bit You kill it , Gh ,and I love every minute of it. It's never personal with you ,unless your name is Steve Bruce ,that is . The way you handle the flak, especially the peremptory flak , is very impressive indeed, a lesson in life ,may I say . Up The Villa . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Nah, it’s really not. I tried several ways to avoid a snarky comment about the depth of logic in your argument. But instead I'll (perhaps foolishly) ask you to explain, "why do you not think so?" Here's why I thought it was brilliant. The original argument (as I understood it) was that Bruce's substitutions were very positive considering that we were getting overrun. The question pointed out the obvious but unstated problem. We were getting overrun... by scum... so much so that EVERYONE agrees the substitutions were needed. Bringing on Jedinak clearly worked (whether someone else going off instead is certainly up for debate) (whether it would have been better changed earlier is also up for debate) but the sub Bruce made did help. But the obvious problem was... we were getting overrun.... by knuckledraggers...so much so that EVERYONE (including Steve Bruce) agrees that SOMETHING had to be done to change things up. Quarreling about the subs is interesting, but hides the bigger point. We did not play especially well, as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villianusa Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: I'd like to know how it got to the point where we were being completely overrun by a seemingly, not that good of a side ? Read the post above from H&V, it explains quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 8 hours ago, briny_ear said: Hardly positive? We were being overrun and looked extremely likely to concede as they piled on their attacks. Jedinak came on and that turned around instantly. Within 5 minutes of him coming on we had 4 decent shots and in that last half hour we had 8 and nearly scored a couple of times. If that’s not seen as positive, I wonder if expectations are unrealistically high? Maybe switching to 442 with Davis and Kodg up front would have succeeded despite having failed so woefully against Wolves. I don’t know. I can sort of sympathise with Bruce for maybe being a bit wary about trying it given the pressure of the derby situation. But ignore me. I am a bit out of step these days with the general view tha Bruce is a coward, fool and dinosaur, so I may tend to give him more credit than he is due. I don't think he's a coward or a fool ,or even a dinosaur ,just a shit manager ,tbh . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, srsmithusa said: I tried several ways to avoid a snarky comment about the depth of logic in your argument. But instead I'll (perhaps foolishly) ask you to explain, "why do you not think so?" Here's why I thought it was brilliant. The original argument (as I understood it) was that Bruce's substitutions were very positive considering that we were getting overrun. The question pointed out the obvious but unstated problem. We were getting overrun... by scum... so much so that EVERYONE agrees the substitutions were needed. Bringing on Jedinak clearly worked (whether someone else going off instead is certainly up for debate) (whether it would have been better changed earlier is also up for debate) but the sub Bruce made did help. But the obvious problem was... we were getting overrun.... by knuckledraggers...so much so that EVERYONE (including Steve Bruce) agrees that SOMETHING had to be done to change things up. Quarreling about the subs is interesting, but hides the bigger point. We did not play especially well, as a team. So there you have it ,bobzy . Just when you think it's safe to go back into the woods . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 hours ago, Grasshopper said: My life is very fulfilling, I need to read the utter crap to bring me down to earth a bit #Humblebrag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Jareth said: #Humblebrag isnt yours? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 hours ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Hardly over run. Could have gone either way! Tbh ,they wasn't my words . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: isnt yours? Isn't his what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 35 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Tbh ,they wasn't my words . Sorry hadn't read all the posts. Anyway games are coming thick and fast. Win tonight and Sunday is forgotten. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Lerner's Driver said: Isn't his what? life fulfilling follow the thread kind sir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: life fulfilling follow the thread kind sir Oh, I am following and I guessed that's what you meant, but you've reverted to posting non-sequiturs, which is why I can't see how his humblebrag comment prompts your query about his life being fulfilling. It certainly doesn't address his point that you are anything but humble. In fact, your response, like most of your posts, merely amplifies what he was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) On 10/31/2017 at 11:57, Keyblade said: Why even employ a manager then? Why not just do away with this archaic institution since it's all down to the players. That is not what is being said. There is a distinction between what is manager errors/flaws and player errors/flaws lets use them appropriately. Edited November 1, 2017 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Can't see us getting anything tonight. If we do, whether a draw or a loss, you just know it'll be utter shite football. Out out out. If we go up, out. We'll be bottom and sack him in November by which time it'll probably be too late. There must be less than 10% of the fan base actually enjoying watching us. We are dog dirt and get by on the odd bit of individual spark. Which we have in abundance because we've got the most expensive squad in the league. Brilliantly, he's being shown up by two totally different styles of management at the top of the league. A foreigner who has never managed on these shores with a team starring definitely a few mercenaries; and a rising Brit who has an idea about tactics and at least a rough plan of what he wants his team to do. Bruce is the past. Edited November 1, 2017 by Tomaszk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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