VillaAlex Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Makes sense need to see how many glory supporters we get after the title in May and after we win the UCL next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Delphinho123 Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 I'm all for moving to a shiny new stadium personally. 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 My guess is that the hospitality packages (beyond the TV and LG) are not quite selling as they had hoped and stadium expansion only really makes FINANCIAL sense if you can bring in big time hospitality dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Risso Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 Dreadful short term decision, from someone who seems utterly clueless. All investments have a short term downside, but then in a couple of years we'd have 10,000 extra seats for ever more. We've got the 8th biggest stadium in the Premier League, and it's 10,000 smaller than the 7th biggest. To compete you need the extra revenue that extra fans bring. "We're adding too many seats, too fast." Utter, utter moron. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Feels like short term thinking. Capitalise on the extra interest next season and a full house every week rather than lose money by only having 36k seats. Long term that's a drop in the ocean though. Heck will be entirely short term thinking. He won't be here in 5 years, arguably not even 3. He needs to pad his CV with short term ready deliverables - stuff that easily drives sales. The stadium is potentially a big millstone around his career so in the bin it goes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, nepal_villan said: My guess is that the hospitality packages (beyond the TV and LG) are not quite selling as they had hoped and stadium expansion only really makes FINANCIAL sense if you can bring in big time hospitality dollars. Hospitality is rammed and you can't get a seat for love nor money. I tried to get some extra for the Fulham game and was told there were hundreds of people with their name on the waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Feels like short term thinking. Capitalise on the extra interest next season and a full house every week rather than lose money by only having 36k seats. Long term that's a drop in the ocean though. That's my thinking as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 This does seem like really short-term thinking. However, it's possible that they're concerned about rampant inflation in construction projects, and it's worth remembering that the country's main builder of football stands has gone into administration recently; it doesn't seem like a great environment to be launching a new project. Not happy about it, just trying to contextualise the decision. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Risso said: Dreadful short term decision, from someone who seems utterly clueless. All investments have a short term downside, but then in a couple of years we'd have 10,000 extra seats for ever more. We've got the 8th biggest stadium in the Premier League, and it's 10,000 smaller than the 7th biggest. To compete you need the extra revenue that extra fans bring. "We're adding too many seats, too fast." Utter, utter moron. I'd be expecting his resignation before the weeks it if I were the owners. He's looking to protect his own arse and pad his CV with easy wins and doesn't want the trouble of the stadium work when he won't be given the kudos for it and he won't be able to brag how much income it brought in, because he won't be here. So he'll be delightfully doing easy commercial deals and pushing cheap income gains off hospitality and ticket packages and merchandising, but the stuff that'll by helping the club in decades to come, no no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 It really sounds like Heck is concerned about having 10,000 extra people use the existing transport links around Villa Park and I do understand where he's coming from. Anyone who visited the ground when we were pulling in 30,000 fans in the Championship can attest to how much worse travelling in is now we're filling VP again. Now add 10,000 more fans on to already strained transport links and it's clear to see there's a problem. Perhaps he wants that solved before moving ahead with extra seats. I still think it's a weird decision given we've clearly put a lot of effort into those plans and, as I said in another thread, we're simply moving this same problem to another season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wishywashy Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 Complexities between Villa and WHO? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 simple really. terrace view and lower grounds sales have been much lower than they anticipated, this will boost things as people who might have been waiting for the new stand to be built now will be considering hospitality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Just now, HanoiVillan said: This does seem like really short-term thinking. However, it's possible that they're concerned about rampant inflation in construction projects, and it's worth remembering that the country's main builder of football stands has gone into administration recently; it doesn't seem like a great environment to be launching a new project. Not happy about it, just trying to contextualise the decision. That side of things isn't going to get any better in the short to medium term though. I do get the travel issues though - that has to be sorted to allow another 10k folk in every other weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Heck is making the right decision here Fair play to him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, wishywashy said: Complexities between Villa and WHO? There's no need to feel down! At least we know who the Cowboy is now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Pongo Waring said: Heck is making the right decision here Fair play to him. He isn't, and he can piss off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Risso said: Hospitality is rammed and you can't get a seat for love nor money. I tried to get some extra for the Fulham game and was told there were hundreds of people with their name on the waiting list. My family is coming over from California and I have hospitality for Sheffield United and Burnley matches and I was surprised how easy it was to secure. I did reserve it 3-4 months in advance - so both our experiences could be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, wishywashy said: Complexities between Villa and WHO? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Risso said: He isn't, and he can piss off. Oh yes he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 The ST prices next season are going to be scary. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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