Lichfield Dean Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: need to get back into the prem then start filling the ground on a regular basis before we even think about it. no point spending money on the north stand until we are ready to increase capacity which could be a few years yet. Well, to look at it another way, Recon seem to be heavily involved in architecture and urban design, and what better way to advertise your design chops than with a fancy new stadium? Also, if we are expecting lower spectator numbers redevelopment would be less disruptive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 no way would i want a new stadium and no way do we need one. i see your point in the last sentence but we need to be doing really well to be hitting 50k most weeks so is it worth the risk? if we are only a mid table prem team in the next few seasons then we will average between 35-38k and in a ground which holds 50k say,then its really pointless. if we can get up first or second attempt(lets face it,there is a lot of work to do) then build an exciting team in the prem i think it will have a snowball effect and the ground will be 40k most weeks. hopefully its the start of a exciting era for this great old club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 A Mini Star City on the door step will be handy on match days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Build it and they will come! You don't add seats when you need them. If he plans to take us to the top then it makes more sense to rebuild over the next season when attendances will be lower and have it ready for the following year when we need the space. From what I've heard the Chinese are great at building walls, so welcome the new owners ambition and forward thinking to start now rather than wait like our past overlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: no way would i want a new stadium and no way do we need one. i see your point in the last sentence but we need to be doing really well to be hitting 50k most weeks so is it worth the risk? if we are only a mid table prem team in the next few seasons then we will average between 35-38k and in a ground which holds 50k say,then its really pointless. if we can get up first or second attempt(lets face it,there is a lot of work to do) then build an exciting team in the prem i think it will have a snowball effect and the ground will be 40k most weeks. hopefully its the start of a exciting era for this great old club. Yeah, of course, just saying that there might be reasons why Recon might consider it. It wouldn't necessarily be worth it from the club's perspective agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted May 18, 2016 Administrator Share Posted May 18, 2016 We need to generate revenue to offset FFP. Any early building is likely to be chasing corporate money, mainly away from match days. I suspect a new shop / hotel / conference centre to take advantage of the communications links. The same at Bodymoor if HST isn't taking too much land. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 No to a new fecking stadium thanks. Tear down The Holte and you tear out our heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 Increase corporate facilities , boxes and create large hospitality areas, watch football in relative luxury. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AValon Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 How are we going to accomodate the Beijing Supporters Club? 75k capacity, no probs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philgetaway Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Start by re-opening the trinity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Er lets not get too carried away. At best we will be getting about 30,000 next season. Lerner came in with grand plans for expansion- only to find that we rarely fill it. With no prem football that is not going to change any time soon. Perhaps if we finally actually punch at our weight than yes maybe in the future we can dust down those plans but plan a- is takeover, b- a proper football structure and decent players, c- promotion, d- winning attractive football at home at a consistent basis, then maybe e- ground development. Edit- it is one of things that does make Villa an attractive investment even with Lerner as we have a good stadium with land and potential to make it even better. But that is a long way down the line. Edited May 18, 2016 by The Fun Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 hour ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: No to a new fecking stadium thanks. Tear down The Holte and you tear out our heart. This is the kind of thinking which hampers us, of course I understand the sentiment. However it is 2016! How do you think the likes of Arsenal, West Ham, City etc cope? Even with a new stadium we can always have remnants of our history. That said I would also just prefer the current site to be upgraded. This reminds me of a few years ago when some people on here were actually pissed off about us upgrading to the new leather style seats in the dugout! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This is the kind of thinking which hampers us, of course I understand the sentiment. However it is 2016! How do you think the likes of Arsenal, West Ham, City etc cope? Even with a new stadium we can always have remnants of our history. That said I would also just prefer the current site to be upgraded. This reminds me of a few years ago when some people on here were actually pissed off about us upgrading to the new leather style seats in the dugout! lol Why do we need a new stadium? Just for the hell of it? Plenty of land there to expand VP as it is. Your second example is absolutely ridiculous. They're nothing like the same. Have you ever been to The Etihad or The Emirates? Soulless, miserable places. No thanks. It's simply not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 18, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 18, 2016 I reckon we will start on the north stand pdq. It will be developed much larger in terms of seats as that would be easy to do raising the overall VP capacity but mainly I suspect putting in state of the art corporate facilities and other areas behind the seats which would have commercial revenue generating opportunities such as hotel / restaurants / conference facilities. Also if he does deliver on his promise to make us the top team in China you can expect several thousand on the gate from visiting Chinese tourists. We will see more half and half scarves. Do this now we can keep open the upper Trinity whilst the north stand is out of action and we have lower Aston Villa founded football league crowds and development finished in time for the return to the prem next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holtern8 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I wouldn't be adverse to a new stadium, but I would like it to keep the Victorian nuances and not be a soulless bowl type place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I'm not totally opposed to a new stadium, but only if it stays at the same place, retains the Holte, and is super snazzy looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 As long as the holte stays the same I'm in for whatever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 A new stadium would certainly be a statement of intent. However I think it will probably be investment around VP. The Doc has it all worked out so I won't worry about it too much 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Redevelop north stand. Get sum heating in as it f in freezing during winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Level the North and the Doug, rebuild 'em from scratch, and re-develop the surrounding area of the ground to make it all nice. Cheers Doc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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