lapal_fan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, maqroll said: i want to share the same enthusiasm. i haven't written him off in any way, i just think it has the potential to get totally out of control, and become an unwanted burden on the players and manager. Often I am the same, I just think, until there is evidence to counter his claims, then let's go with it. Not that we have much choice either way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, maqroll said: i want to share the same enthusiasm. i haven't written him off in any way, i just think it has the potential to get totally out of control, and become an unwanted burden on the players and manager. I think you're overthinking it a touch and catastrophising. I would suggest the squad, manager included, love it, it takes the heat off them. Rather than talk about our embarrassing defeat to Luton the press are talking about Tony. It could go tits up, sure. Worrying about that happening isn't going to change anything. Edited August 12, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 One of the reasons the press aren't talking about our embarrassing defeat to Luton is that it's villa , it's par for the course it isn't news . I doubt they'd talk about it anyway. What they are talking about is the "strange" tweets of our owner and adding yet another doubt about his ability 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Richard said: One of the reasons the press aren't talking about our embarrassing defeat to Luton is that it's villa , it's par for the course it isn't news . I doubt they'd talk about it anyway. What they are talking about is the "strange" tweets of our owner and adding yet another doubt about his ability I don't agree with the first part, either way Tony was straight on it taking the heat off them. I don't find his tweets strange nor is there anything in them that casts doubt on his ability IMO. It would be bizarre to judge a mans ability to run a football club on a series of tweets. The fans at large, on twitter at least, seem to be rallying around him. The press can go suck a dick, particularly the Birmingham Mail. Click bait words removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 @lapal_fan makes a bloody good point too, at least we're not **** boring anymore. He's giving us identity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: @lapal_fan makes a bloody good point too, at least we're not **** boring anymore. He's giving us identity. Yep, I don't care if every fan in the world, even some of our own start to hate the brashness. We tried being the good guys of football that got praised by other clubs for the way we went about transfer dealings and that got us nowhere. AVFC, words removed of the Midlands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Gary Thomas said: Love him. He is proactive, determined, ridiculously ambitious, loaded, a bit crazy - oh and he likes to communicate with fans and he says what he thinks. We need to win some games otherwise it's all going to come crashing down in time. It's a good thing I guess we're out of the prem as we certainly are now a non-entity to the press. They'd be all over Xia's tweets if we were still up there like when Krulak was comparing Gold and Sullivan to pigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Yep, I don't care if every fan in the world, even some of our own start to hate the brashness. We tried being the good guys of football that got praised by other clubs for the way we went about transfer dealings and that got us nowhere. AVFC, words removed of the Midlands. Can we win some games aswell while we're at it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIVillan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 To me it is like when Big Ron came to Villa. We were seen as a nothing club. A bit of excitement with Taylor a couple of seasons before but really a run of mill team. With Big Ron came the quotes etc and the football world focused back on us for a bit. Earl Barret chose Villa over Arsenal and we started to attract the better players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Can we win some games aswell while we're at it? Surely that's a given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, VillaChris said: We need to win some games otherwise it's all going to come crashing down in time. It's a good thing I guess we're out of the prem as we certainly are now a non-entity to the press. They'd be all over Xia's tweets if we were still up there like when Krulak was comparing Gold and Sullivan to pigs. The thing is I don't care if they "are all over Xia's tweets" - who gives a shit about the media. They slag Villa and talk down the club at every opportunity anyway. Edit - of course we need to win some games as well. Edited August 12, 2016 by Gary Thomas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, NIVillan said: To me it is like when Big Ron came to Villa. We were seen as a nothing club. A bit of excitement with Taylor a couple of seasons before but really a run of mill team. With Big Ron came the quotes etc and the football world focused back on us for a bit. Earl Barret chose Villa over Arsenal and we started to attract the better players. Spot on. If you tell people that you (yourself) want to win, want to be the best, come be a part of an exciting new project - people will lap that shit up all day. Those players will run through walls for you too, because they believe it. Compare that with the austerity we've experienced over the last 5/6 years. Look at the people we've purchased, look at their records, look at where they are in their careers.. why would any of those players come and try hard? (I'm looking at players like Lescott (32, career coming down, no drive, won the PL, played PC), Richards (28, won PL, not played for nearly 2 years because teams think he's crap - NOW OUR CAPTAIN!?), Hutton (came from Spurs, thinks he's a good PL defender, nothing to prove). Now let's look at our so called successes from last year, Amavi, young, came to a new country, wants to break into the French NT, wants to become a proven PL player. Ayew, came to a new country, young, wants to progress his career, he's mentioned CL football etc. It's absolutely no coincidence that we went down last year, the writing was on the wall in August with the so call experienced players (aka morons) we bought in. Edited August 12, 2016 by lapal_fan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: Surely that's a given? Better get cracking then...we need 15 wins just to stay in this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NIVillan Posted August 12, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Add to the Ayew he spoke to his dad the great Abedi Pele who told him how great a Club Villa was. We need to start promoting how great this club is. Before my time but I was given the match programmes from the era when we went down to the 3rd (League 1 to youngsters) Villa was at its lowest. But the club worked on promoting itself again as a great club. The fans were told we will rise again, the club is moving in the right direction. The trip to the 1971 League Cup Final was the sonic boom that pushed Villa to glory in 1981 and 1982. Along the way Pele playing at Villa Park, winning promotion in style from Div 3 with packed crowds. 2 League Cup wins, our first adventure in Europe (Van Gal played in the Antwerp team that beat us), hosting Barcelona with Johan Cruyff and going close to beating them. Whopping Liverpool 5-1 (Half time Score) the season they first came The Champions of Europe, also thumping Arsenal and one other team I can't remember by the similar shorelines. Playing attractive all out attacking football with Little, Gray and Deehan ripping defensives apart, the rapid counter attacking by the boys of 81/82 in the European Cup. THE NAME of ASTON VILLA was in the News and it was mostly positive. Along came Ellis and he talked of budgets, cost cutting, he cut corners and didn't really promote the club. Big Ron did that. Lerner along with O'Neil, Acorns etc was again positive we were seen in a good light and started good players. Then the crash. Talks of cost cutting surviving etc. Yes we are in bad ways but we are ASTON VILLLA and lets us Rejoice in the fact we choose this great club to be OUR club. phew get off the podium now - Im sure some oldies can add more to the glory of Villa as I was born when we were winning Div 3 but as said I was given a big bulk of 70s programmes and read them cover to cover. They were great years and if you want more read the book Children of the Revolution by Richard Whitehead. Edited August 12, 2016 by NIVillan 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 11 hours ago, briny_ear said: I suppose the fault line is whether you are or aren't bothered about the club becoming a laughing stock. Like many others, I'm extremely bothered about how the club is run and our results on the pitch (hence supporting AVPG/OTDO74), but can't really rev up the ol' give-a-**** meter when it comes to how some skallywag in Liverpool feels about Villa, because the media told him him Tony is a twittering tool. That's not to say I think it's a good idea that he mouths off on Twitter, just that the "fall out" doesn't really bother me. In the words of Bart and Lisa Simpson... Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meme Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 (edited) Indykalia told me we're signing Messi this afternoon. He is obviously correct. Some idiots can really be laughable... Edited August 12, 2016 by meme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Dr Keith. Dear me how sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Relating to this I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Who the f is dr Keith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Who the f is dr Keith? Nobody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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