snowychap Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Jareth said: Well I shall definitely be thinking about the overall Chinese government record on human rights when Aston Villa, of Aston, owned by a Chinese business person who seems a great lad, are winning the premier league in five years. What on earth has all of that got to do with the price of a cup of tea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Just now, snowychap said: What on earth has all of that got to do with the price of a cup of tea? It's got a bit to do with a takeover thread, non? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westholmevillan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Can we please get back on topic....this is becoming ridiculous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2016 I hate the misery of real life, that's why I like football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Just now, Jareth said: It's got a bit to do with a takeover thread, non? Nothing you'd posted in our exchange up to that point had anything to do with Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Welcome Doc. Please be a good owner!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danwichmann Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 19 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: True in part, but also goes for many countries in the middle east, as well as africa and others. However the flip side is that a higher percentage of expats here get to live a much higher quality of life here than they would at home. There are some people here who would appear to be "suffering" who have managed to build "mansions" back home. It is just a shame that the media can always shine a huge light on all the negatives, run with it, and never the positives. In fairness in this day and age everyone coming here should know what they are signing up for, the customs and culture etc. I have personally been "victim" to certain "unfair" practices myself to a lesser extent, but the positives far outweigh the negatives for me. In all honestly all countries/governments have their shady and secretive sides. If you follow the Western Media, for people who have no real idea about this side of the world, you would think women and children are being abused and burned in the streets, and whipped. When in truth you can go to a nightclub, get pissed, pickup hookers, party with locals etc etc (Obviously off topic but you get the point). Yes, some truth in that. Many Nepali's who work in Qatar are able to comeback and build houses (although I'm yet to see anyone build a mansion), the price of that is being away from their families and children for, typically, 3 to 5 years at a time, with no opportunity to come back under any circumstances (including post-earthquake). I doubt whether they truly have a higher quality of life for the most part, being away from families and working long hours, with little disposable income. While life at home is often difficult as well, many people manage to live a simple but reasonably happy existence. Those coming from Nepal often don't know what they are getting into. The employment agencies are unscrupulous and exploitative on the Nepali side, and newspapers don't carry lots of investigative reporting (for those able to read them), so the working conditions and having passports confiscated does come as a shock to many. Most Nepali's have to work 12 months just to pay off the agency fees. No doubt it goes for a lot of other countries (and there are about a quarter of a million people in slavery in Nepal itself), I picked on Qatar because the I was making the point about human rights vs football, so it was relevant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 29 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I hate the misery of real life, that's why I like football. That's funny as I hate the misery of (Aston Villa's) football, that's why I like real life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 26 minutes ago, snowychap said: Nothing you'd posted in our exchange up to that point had anything to do with Aston Villa. Not even the bit about Aston Villa, in Aston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jareth said: Not even the bit about Aston Villa, in Aston? 30 minutes ago, snowychap said: Nothing you'd posted in our exchange up to that point had anything to do with Aston Villa. Edited June 13, 2016 by snowychap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Danwichmann said: Yes, some truth in that. Many Nepali's who work in Qatar are able to comeback and build houses (although I'm yet to see anyone build a mansion), the price of that is being away from their families and children for, typically, 3 to 5 years at a time, with no opportunity to come back under any circumstances (including post-earthquake). I doubt whether they truly have a higher quality of life for the most part, being away from families and working long hours, with little disposable income. While life at home is often difficult as well, many people manage to live a simple but reasonably happy existence. Those coming from Nepal often don't know what they are getting into. The employment agencies are unscrupulous and exploitative on the Nepali side, and newspapers don't carry lots of investigative reporting (for those able to read them), so the working conditions and having passports confiscated does come as a shock to many. Most Nepali's have to work 12 months just to pay off the agency fees. No doubt it goes for a lot of other countries (and there are about a quarter of a million people in slavery in Nepal itself), I picked on Qatar because the I was making the point about human rights vs football, so it was relevant. What I can say, is that the government has been trying to implement and change alot of the procedures. However as you can imagine it is difficult to put certain things into place with old and new tribes/factions being in control in certain industries and parts of the hierarchy etc. Some aresoles will never leave their way of imperialistic thinking if you know what I mean. Anyway, can we just enjoy what hopefully can become a positive era for us please?! lol. We hardly ever get to! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted June 13, 2016 Administrator Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Anyway, can we just enjoy what hopefully can become a positive era for us please?! lol. We hardly ever get to! Are you new here? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Thomas Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 John Percy @JPercyTelegraph 9m #avfc to officially confirm Tony Xia as new owner in next 48 hours. Xia had talks with Di Matteo & Clarke at Villa training ground today https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph?lang=en-gb 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Another 48 hours, brilliant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HanoiVillan Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Jareth said: Tony Blair, illegal war, thousands killed, thanks to the squeaky clean and oh so ethical UK government. Point being, the Chinese are a great bunch of lads. grey evening, cloudy, football on, boring football, Belgium, dreadful anthem, worse than England, head turning, neck swivel, Jareth comment, stream-of-consciousness rising, falling, no sense it makes, oh well cup of tea time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 24 minutes ago, Gary Thomas said: John Percy @JPercyTelegraph 9m #avfc to officially confirm Tony Xia as new owner in next 48 hours. Xia had talks with Di Matteo & Clarke at Villa training ground today https://twitter.com/JPercyTelegraph?lang=en-gb That would take us up to, erm, the 15th June? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: True in part, but also goes for many countries in the middle east, as well as africa and others. However the flip side is that a higher percentage of expats here get to live a much higher quality of life here than they would at home. There are some people here who would appear to be "suffering" who have managed to build "mansions" back home. It is just a shame that the media can always shine a huge light on all the negatives, run with it, and never the positives. In fairness in this day and age everyone coming here should know what they are signing up for, the customs and culture etc. I have personally been "victim" to certain "unfair" practices myself to a lesser extent, but the positives far outweigh the negatives for me. In all honestly all countries/governments have their shady and secretive sides. If you follow the Western Media, for people who have no real idea about this side of the world, you would think women and children are being abused and burned in the streets, and whipped. When in truth you can go to a nightclub, get pissed, pickup hookers, party with locals etc etc (Obviously off topic but you get the point). You can't beat a bit of perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted June 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) Just under 8 weeks til the season kicks off, I know 48hrs doesn't make a great difference, but I really would like them to crack on with making us good at football again. Edited June 13, 2016 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Danwichmann said: Yes, some truth in that. Many Nepali's who work in Qatar are able to comeback and build houses (although I'm yet to see anyone build a mansion), the price of that is being away from their families and children for, typically, 3 to 5 years at a time, with no opportunity to come back under any circumstances (including post-earthquake). I doubt whether they truly have a higher quality of life for the most part, being away from families and working long hours, with little disposable income. While life at home is often difficult as well, many people manage to live a simple but reasonably happy existence. Those coming from Nepal often don't know what they are getting into. The employment agencies are unscrupulous and exploitative on the Nepali side, and newspapers don't carry lots of investigative reporting (for those able to read them), so the working conditions and having passports confiscated does come as a shock to many. Most Nepali's have to work 12 months just to pay off the agency fees. No doubt it goes for a lot of other countries (and there are about a quarter of a million people in slavery in Nepal itself), I picked on Qatar because the I was making the point about human rights vs football, so it was relevant. I can learn so much from you.....you should be a journalist.I have genuinely enjoyed this. ..........but we are in Aston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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