Mozzavfc Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 So post Brexit we'll have zero tariffs, no fees, charges or quantitative restrictions across all goods. Visa-free travel for short-term visits. 'Level playing field' on state aid, social and employment standards, environmental standards, climate change and tax So no change then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, peterms said: Perhaps there will be a summary, because this really isn't helping. ...and it sems there is, a seven page document in normal language. More helpfully, where May's remarks have been a defensive justification of her part in this charade, Barnier is saying things like "citizens will be able to live their lives as before in their country of residence", which is actual information of use to people in language they can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: So post Brexit we'll have zero tariffs, no fees, charges or quantitative restrictions across all goods. Visa-free travel for short-term visits. 'Level playing field' on state aid, social and employment standards, environmental standards, climate change and tax So no change then Broadly. And all it's cost us is £40bn and any representation in making the rules we're agreeing to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Xann said: She said we were leaving. Then some Tory melt stood up and said she wasn't delivering the Brexit they wanted. I mean, no shit Sherlock. It was like a spoiled child taking issue with a department store Santa. I think that was the Representative for Wellingborough Peter Bone wasn't it? If he's upset then it can't be all that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 14, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 14, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mozzavfc said: So post Brexit we'll have zero tariffs, no fees, charges or quantitative restrictions across all goods. Visa-free travel for short-term visits. 'Level playing field' on state aid, social and employment standards, environmental standards, climate change and tax So no change then You're forgetting that our economy is 85% a service economy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 minute ago, bickster said: You're forgetting that our economy is 85% a service economy With a new age of automation landing now and a critical environmental shitstorm in the wings. We've done very poorly for future generations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Xann said: We've done very poorly for future generations Some people have, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 +39 million down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, StefanAVFC said: +39 million down 39 Billion down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) How much do we currently pay out of interest, and how does it compare to what we’ll pay annually going forward? Edited November 14, 2018 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 So the solution to Ireland turns out to be... Spoiler *Just keep extending the transition period *When we're all bored of that, we have a UK-wide Customs Union, but Northern Ireland remains aligned with Single Market rules, so agricultural checks at Larne and elsewhere. Who could possibly seen that the solution was the thing that they've been saying was unconscionable for the last six months Information recueillis à la source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, ml1dch said: So the solution to Ireland turns out to be... Reveal hidden contents *Just keep extending the transition period *When we're all bored of that, we have a UK-wide Customs Union, but Northern Ireland remains aligned with Single Market rules, so agricultural checks at Larne and elsewhere. Who could possibly seen that the solution was the thing that they've been saying was unconscionable for the last six months Information recueillis à la source. So if I've understood that correctly, the rules for driving oxen between counties remain ths same until at least our colonisation of Mars? But we won't use these rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Emily Maitliss opens Newsnight with: 'for those of you that haven't had enough of experts, tonight we've got loads' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Do the UK still pay Money in to the EU & can the UK do it's trade deals are 2 things I cannot find out at the moment. I have been up for ages as I expected resignations but none so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted November 15, 2018 Moderator Share Posted November 15, 2018 When will the commons vote be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: When will the commons vote be? Early December, is what I thought I read yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozzavfc Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 42 minutes ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Do the UK still pay Money in to the EU & can the UK do it's trade deals are 2 things I cannot find out at the moment. I have been up for ages as I expected resignations but none so far. From the BBC's summary we can do trade deals with the rest of the world Couldn't see anything on what fees we'll pay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 Why would individual countries give us a better deal than we had as part of the EU? it’s much easier to get a decent deal when you’re part of 27 than if you’re on your own. Stupid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 11 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: If he's upset then it can't be all that bad. I am the same with Nicola Sturgeon, if anything has upset her then on balance it's most likely good for most normal people in Britain. If she could re-build the wall up there she would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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