KSV Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 to my extensive knowledge of football manager.. when my work permit appeal was rejected.. I had to wait 120 days before appealing/applying again. Clearly Fox and Hollis don't know what their doing. In all seriousness is it different if they try for a loan first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 The way I always understood it is the first application will always be based on the rules with no room for discretion so unless the player is a full international will get rejected. Which is when a club appeals and common sense can prevail. The only problem is the time this can take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 13 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: The way I always understood it is the first application will always be based on the rules with no room for discretion so unless the player is a full international will get rejected. Which is when a club appeals and common sense can prevail. The only problem is the time this can take. But apparently the appeal was already rejected. So how are we trying again? If you try for loan with a buy option. I Imagine you still need a work permit. Maybe it's a new application Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, KSV said: But apparently the appeal was already rejected. So how are we trying again? If you try for loan with a buy option. I Imagine you still need a work permit. Maybe it's a new application I haven't read anywhere that the appeal was rejected? If that's the case then forget about it. Unless we are apealing the appeal decision!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 There are apparently 2 stages of appeal, as outlined in the 7500toHolte article I read tonight, the 2nd stage comes down to the discretion (read: lawyers) of the FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Croatian media still think we can't get him - apparently at least till the next window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, samjp26 said: Croatian media still think we can't get him - apparently at least till the next window. what if we tried to get him in on loan with view to permanent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 All these articles are claiming the FA are the ones who turned it down, so based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the trouble from last season has had a bearing on their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 24 minutes ago, Bunnski said: All these articles are claiming the FA are the ones who turned it down, so based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the trouble from last season has had a bearing on their decision. You're kidding right? You think a few idiots on the pitch a year ago will affect a legal process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 All these articles are claiming the FA are the ones who turned it down, so based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the trouble from last season has had a bearing on their decision. You're kidding right? You think a few idiots on the pitch a year ago will affect a legal process? As far as I remember we got fined on 3 different occasions last season. And no I'm not kidding, do you think organisations like the Fa are run without prejudice? Because I certainly don't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Mate, I think there's an element of Hanlon's Razor here The work permit process is run by the Home Office, of which the FA criteria are part of. Most likely explanation is that the application just didn't fulfil the criteria (ie. his wage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Bunnski said: All these articles are claiming the FA are the ones who turned it down, so based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the trouble from last season has had a bearing on their decision. they are more pissed we ruined the Steven Gerrard FA Cup birthday party 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RimmyJimmer Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 2 hours ago, Bunnski said: All these articles are claiming the FA are the ones who turned it down, so based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the trouble from last season has had a bearing on their decision. Nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, mwj said: Mate, I think there's an element of Hanlon's Razor here The work permit process is run by the Home Office, of which the FA criteria are part of. Most likely explanation is that the application just didn't fulfil the criteria (ie. his wage) Defo won't be wages, the threshold for getting permits range from £26,000 - £150,000 p/a or something like that......if we're paying him any less than that then it deserves to be rejected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 What is Hanlon's Razor? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straggler Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Assuming it is Occams razor misspelled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted January 27, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted January 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, Straggler said: Assuming it is Occams razor misspelled Nope. Dont blame bad decisions on conspiracy but rather people being idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwj Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 1 hour ago, HanoiVillan said: What is Hanlon's Razor? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hanlon%27s+razor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 rejected again according to Mat Kendrick ..apparently because he only has 2 caps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Oh well, at least we tried to sign someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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