ml1dch Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, meregreen said: It’s always been their mantra to turn us against each other. Sadly it’s all too often worked. Obviously. I don't see how my post relates to that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted November 18, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2022 Going back to the MPs Pay distraction. Your bog standard MP is underpaid for what they do. They need to be paid a lot more IMO but remove any form of second income. This is the only way to get talented people elected with as little corruption as possible Complaining about MPs pay is a distraction that always happens every year and the issue isn't the pay rise. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Do you have the figures of how many mps donated their pay increase and where? There is a thought that really MP’s salaries should be massively increased to similar levels as directors of private companies so that it attracts more real world people into government. It might also mean that a £10-100k donation isn’t going to sway them in their decision making for the country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, bickster said: Going back to the MPs Pay distraction. Your bog standard MP is underpaid for what they do. They need to be paid a lot more IMO but remove any form of second income. This is the only way to get talented people elected with as little corruption as possible Complaining about MPs pay is a distraction that always happens every year and the issue isn't the pay rise. You beat me too it, I was just typing the same thing. Good point about all the other bits of income they get - pay them £1m each but no other income and expenses scandals etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 18, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 Hahahahahaaa....!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ml1dch said: Obviously. I don't see how my post relates to that though. I’m not having a go at you.The post you quoted was “ featherbedding the retired at the expense of the young”. A typical attempt to incite resentment from the young towards the older generation, when the true blame lies in Downing Street. It’s what they do, it’s what they’ve always done. It’s a political black ops tactic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 20 hours ago, AshVilla said: Energy price cap going up by an extra £500 is going to wound a lot of people considering many can't even afford to pay at the current rates. We have to adapt. Rather than put heating on I tend to use low electric blankets, throws which are cheap to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, ender4 said: You beat me too it, I was just typing the same thing. Good point about all the other bits of income they get - pay them £1m each but no other income and expenses scandals etc. I would still be concerned that politics in general seem to attract the type of person who use the system for their own aims and pockets, however much you pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 18, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, delboy54 said: I would still be concerned that politics in general seem to attract the type of person who use the system for their own aims and pockets, however much you pay them. It's more likely to happen the less you pay them and it's more likely to happen the more people see MPs getting away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blandy Posted November 18, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, bickster said: Going back to the MPs Pay distraction. Your bog standard MP is underpaid for what they do. They need to be paid a lot more IMO but remove any form of second income. This is the only way to get talented people elected with as little corruption as possible Complaining about MPs pay is a distraction that always happens every year and the issue isn't the pay rise. This is one of the few things I utterly disagree with you about. They're not underpaid, in the main. An enormous amount of them are lobby fodder. They simply do what "the party" says they should do. Party first, constituents second. Their allowances, expenses, wages, pay-offs, pensions...compared to what they "produce" are at best " commensurate with the work they put in" and less charitably a **** disgrace, given their contribution. There are, I accept, many, or some, examples where the opposite might be the case. But overall, no. They're overpaid for what they do. If they were more free from the party system, more independent, more representative and more engaged, then I'd agree. But I don't see it like that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Xann said: Heartbreaking. Just shows how this country has been run into the ground over the past decade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) That video is heartbreaking but thank God for people like that amazing lady in it Pam. It struck home what she said that they work all hours because they care about the community. Those words should have come out the mouth of the local Tory MP who should have been shoulder to shoulder with Pam. Instead all she had to say was that people chose to trade there as a preference to other places around the world and as the video showed that was deluded, total bullshit. Edited November 20, 2022 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Lame duck Prime Minister already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted November 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) Braverman tied in a knot by her fellow Tory. Edited November 23, 2022 by markavfc40 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 hour ago, markavfc40 said: Braverman tied in a knot by her fellow Tory. I see she's a details person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, sidcow said: I see she's a details person. They should not be allowed to keep saying “illegal”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jones1328 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I'll just leave this here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted November 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Genie said: They should not be allowed. FTFY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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