blandy Posted October 22, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 12 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Nothing matters to them at all apart from clinging on to their jobs. To be fair, they’ll have mortgages to pay and have you seen what’s happened to mortgage costs recently, due to the tories electing a libertarian fruitbat to be leader, to enact a load of widely publicised right wing economic lunatic policies which then crashed the economy. So those Tory MPs deserve our every sympathy as the completely innocent victims of Tory party incompetence, recklessness and bonkers ideology. I blame the nurses! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted October 22, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 minute ago, tinker said: the most popular Tory by a mile, he will get the nod because they are self serving morons. I can’t see him getting enough MPs to support him to even get on the list. Sunak v Mordaunt I’d guess. Theoretically a third one could get on the list, but I doubt they will. Still, I thought early on last time that Mordaunt might win that one, so what do I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, blandy said: I can’t see him getting enough MPs to support him to even get on the list. It'll come down to where the ERG throbbers put their votes. It's quite noticeable that in the confirmed supporters lists of supporters, the ERG throbbers are absent (JRM aside) Do they go for one of their own in Mordor (Unity candidate my arse) or go with Johnson. I have a sneaky feeling you are correct, they may go with Mordor but they do seem to be tactically holding back as a group. The likes of Malthouse, Cleverley, Francois, Baker, Duncan Smith et al haven't put their marker anywhere yet and you suspect they are negotiating behind the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 26 minutes ago, tinker said: Unfortunately I have friends and family who are of the "Boris would do a better job" fraternity (caused more than one argument). He's the most popular Tory by a mile, he will get the nod because they are self serving morons. Sorry but your annecdotal evidence of knowing a few people that support Johnson isn't an indication of anything other than you knowing some idiots 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2022 If they do go for someone else, I hope they continually ask Mogg why the party have chosen the “bust” option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mjmooney Posted October 22, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2022 You misunderstand. "Boris or bust" clearly indicates that he would be equally happy with Johnson or Mordaunt. 2 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Sorry but your annecdotal evidence of knowing a few people that support Johnson isn't an indication of anything other than you knowing some idiots There's 15,188,406 of em , unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, mjmooney said: You misunderstand. "Boris or bust" clearly indicates that he would be equally happy with Johnson or Mordaunt. Best pic in 1357 pages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted October 22, 2022 Administrator Share Posted October 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: If they do go for someone else, I hope they continually ask Mogg why the party have chosen the “bust” option. As he was around when they were inventing quote marks, you'd think he'd get them in the right place. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted October 22, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 22, 2022 I was listening to radio program yesterday where a caller advised the way he views it is that Boris had received a yellow card in September and had been in the sin bin (like in Rugby) for a couple of months. His return now would be the equivalent of coming back onto the pitch with a clean slate clearing the way for him to drag us out of this mess. Even myself as a traditional Tory voter find this a little disturbing to say the least 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Hopefully all Boris does is takes votes off someone who would be a threat to Sunak and that’s the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dodgyknees Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: I was listening to radio program yesterday where a caller advised the way he views it is that Boris had received a yellow card in September and had been in the sin bin (like in Rugby) for a couple of months. His return now would be the equivalent of coming back onto the pitch with a clean slate clearing the way for him to drag us out of this mess. Even myself as a traditional Tory voter find this a little disturbing to say the least And yet I saw plenty of Tories going insane cos Starmer had a curry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 How likely is it that Boris could come back and then at Christmas be found in breach of all sorts of procedures by the enquiries that are currently going on and we have a situation where a Prime Minister is essentially 'sacked' from office for being a liar and a crook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: How likely is it that Boris could come back and then at Christmas be found in breach of all sorts of procedures by the enquiries that are currently going on and we have a situation where a Prime Minister is essentially 'sacked' from office for being a liar and a crook? Quite likely. The evidence is there by the sackful apparently, its just whether he can nobble the inquiry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 Just now, bickster said: Quite likely That'd be lovely wouldn't it? A proper Christmas. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 BBC claiming Johnson is over the 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 How are the public just accepting this? I'm surprised there's not been much more push back. We'll basically accept anything at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted October 22, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, DCJonah said: How are the public just accepting this? I'm surprised there's not been much more push back. We'll basically accept anything at this point. What makes you think the public has any choice in this? There is a f***ton of pushback There is no accept / decline on offer. The TV/Radio media in particular are having a Jonsonathon right now but don't take that as any guide to puclic opinion. Public opinion from every properly conducted poll out there says they are against it. Seriously people should stop listening to it, its bad for your health. I was listening to 5Live last night and it was call after call of Tories, 2/3rds of which where Johnson polishers, It was utterly infuriating and gave an absolutely incorrect picture of public opinion. The media love to build him up just to smack him down and I genuinely think that is what some quarters of the press are up to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 The only say the public has are a general strike or riots. You first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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