Genie Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Rishi is being criticised for doing a U-turn on VAT energy bills. First thing i’d do if I were a politician being accused of a u-turn is say yes, I did a u-turn. Why is that a bad thing? Either someone changed my mind, or the circumstances changed and what previously wasn’t a good idea is now a good idea. Its better to do a u-turn than stubbornly stick to your initial stance. Its one of those TTPMOBS, U-Turns shouldn’t be branded as weakness, quite the opposite. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post a m ole Posted July 27, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2022 my PM 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted July 27, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Rishi is being criticised for doing a U-turn on VAT energy bills. First thing i’d do if I were a politician being accused of a u-turn is say yes, I did a u-turn. Why is that a bad thing? Brexit campaign (supported by Sunak) - leave the EU and we can remove VAT from energy bills. Tories get elected, Brexit happens, energy prices soar. Tories (with Sunak as chancellor) "No, we're not removing VAT from energy bills" - so that's the first U-turn if you like. Leadership election, when he's trailing and wants to curry favour and it's back to "we can remove VAT from energy bills". It's less of a U-turn and more of saying whatever for personal gain. He's u-turned twice, basically and doesn't even believe what he says himself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 If sunak gets pm do we get a voucher to eat out again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Demitri_C said: If sunak gets pm do we get a voucher to eat out again? Nope, we have to pay back the government for all the vouchers they gave out last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted July 27, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, a m ole said: my PM Fair play for this, from a Labour fan. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I hope everyone is ok x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Genie said: Nope, we have to pay back the government for all the vouchers they gave out last year. I think its more furlough than that to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpabloangel18 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, a m ole said: my PM Touch of class from Sunak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Fair play for this, from a Labour fan. He probably thought he might get to loosen her clothing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 40 minutes ago, blandy said: It's less of a U-turn and more of saying whatever for personal gain. He's u-turned twice, basically and doesn't even believe what he says himself. Rishi Rich, let me introduce you to Keir Starmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Fair play for this, from a Labour fan. Has anyone read the article BTW? They both rushed to her aide apparently, as any normal human would. Also, they call him "Ms Sunak". Edited July 27, 2022 by Jon Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, a m ole said: my PM Man's a playaaaaa. I'd have rushed to hold the lovely Miss McCann too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Genie said: I hope everyone is ok x 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 The question must be asked did McCann fall to the left or to the right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) I personally believe.. that UK, United Kingdomians are liking the fact Truss looked concerned and Rishi held her hand... and shows that some people out there, in our nation don't have that, and that our education, such as, like Africa and Iraq and... such as.. and I believe that our education over here in the UK should help Madeline McCann, Kate McCann and should help out the others in the country.. So we will be able to build up our future. Needless to say I think all the candidates should vote Conservatives in the forthcoming AND upcoming elections now and forever xxx Edited July 27, 2022 by lapal_fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, lapal_fan said: I personally believe.. that UK, United Kingdomians are liking the fact Truss looked concerned and Rishi held her hand... and shows that some people out there, in our nation don't have that, and that our education, such as, like Africa and Iraq and... such as.. and I believe that our education over here in the UK should help Madeline McCann, Kate McCann and should help out the others in the country.. So we will be able to build up our future. Needless to say I think all the candidates should vote Conservatives in the forthcoming AND upcoming elections now and forever xxx Goes without saying but would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, sidcow said: Goes without saying but would. Oh you! @Xela - where's that little gay, pink emoticon when you finally need it? I love that guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted July 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, blandy said: Leadership election, when he's trailing and wants to curry favour and it's back to "we can remove VAT from energy bills". It's less of a U-turn and more of saying whatever for personal gain. He's u-turned twice, basically and doesn't even believe what he says himself. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Genie said: Rishi is being criticised for doing a U-turn on VAT energy bills. First thing i’d do if I were a politician being accused of a u-turn is say yes, I did a u-turn. Why is that a bad thing? Either someone changed my mind, or the circumstances changed and what previously wasn’t a good idea is now a good idea. Its better to do a u-turn than stubbornly stick to your initial stance. Its one of those TTPMOBS, U-Turns shouldn’t be branded as weakness, quite the opposite. I agree with the premise of making decisions based on circumstance and evidence, it’s clearly sensible. However like the Boris u-turns, they are a political party with an ethos and madates based upon campaigns. Sometimes I think they should stick to initial decisions, own what you are, reap the results. Not change because it’s not a popular decision because then what you stand for is whatever way the wind is blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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