MakemineVanilla Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Last night's game between France and Korea was disappointingly one-sided. France are a top side and were well worth their 3-0 win but Korea's Kim was disappointing, along with Kim and Kim. It wasn't Kim's day and it was no surprise that they didn't add a couple of Kims off the bench, and decided to increase the number of Lees and swapped one Park for another instead. Their lack of fire-power up front looked like a problem and as always Yoo got the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So in football for instance, statistical analysis shows that most players who become professionals were born in the early part of the year, which meant that they were the oldest in their year at school. This gave them an advantage over their class-mates and because they stood out as better they were picked out and given more coaching and they became even better.Not true at all . School years start from September to August. Check out Wiki - Relative age effect The link = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect The quote: The term relative age effect (RAE) is used to describe a bias, evident in the upper echelons of youth sport[1] and academia,[2][3] where participation is higher amongst those born early in the relevant selection period (and correspondingly lower amongst those born late in the selection period) than would be expected from the normalised distribution of live births. The selection period is usually the calendar year, the academic year or the sporting season. I agree . I was born September the 4th so I benefitted from it myself . I just think you worded it poorly the first time around . If you had said born earlier in a selection period rather than THE year I doubt I would have even replied . People born at the start of THE year are actually at a disadvantage to people born in September to December of the previous year . It is better to be born in the last 4 months of THE year rather than the first 8. You said the opposite . I can only go on what you wrote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 So in football for instance, statistical analysis shows that most players who become professionals were born in the early part of the year, which meant that they were the oldest in their year at school. This gave them an advantage over their class-mates and because they stood out as better they were picked out and given more coaching and they became even better. Not true at all . School years start from September to August. Check out Wiki - Relative age effect The link = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_age_effect The quote: The term relative age effect (RAE) is used to describe a bias, evident in the upper echelons of youth sport[1] and academia,[2][3] where participation is higher amongst those born early in the relevant selection period (and correspondingly lower amongst those born late in the selection period) than would be expected from the normalised distribution of live births. The selection period is usually the calendar year, the academic year or the sporting season. I agree . I was born September the 4th so I benefitted from it myself . I just think you worded it poorly the first time around . If you had said born earlier in a selection period rather than THE year I doubt I would have even replied . People born at the start of THE year are actually at a disadvantage to people born in September to December of the previous year . It is better to be born in the last 4 months of THE year rather than the first 8. You said the opposite . I can only go on what you wrote . I was originally quoting what I understood to be the case from reading Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers and Levitt and Dubner's Freakonomics. Both added an extra interpretation to the data, which included the claim that being the oldest in a particular year at school had its advantages because 11 months is quite significant when you are ten years old. I was mainly trying to illustrate what I called the multiplying effect of small advantage. As ever, it looks like my post was not dumb enough to be ignored and not exact enough to be agreed with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) My confusion lays solely on the fact that you chose to use the term THE year rather than SCHOOL year. THE year = January to December. SCHOOL year = September to August . A. People born at the start of the year have an advantage over their classmates. B. People born at the start of a School year have an advantage over their classmates. Which one of these is true ? Which one did you use ? It's really not worth all these replies though and I get that older kids have an advantage .(Did anyone not know that ?) Edited June 22, 2015 by Brumerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 My confusion lays solely on the fact that you chose to use the term THE year rather than SCHOOL year. THE year = January to December. SCHOOL year = September to August . A. People born at the start of the year have an advantage over their classmates. B. People born at the start of a School year have an advantage over their classmates. Which one of these is true ? Which one did you use ? It's really not worth all these replies though and I get that older kids have an advantage .(Did anyone not know that ?) If that is all you want, then I, MMV, declare unequivocally that I expressed myself badly, apologise for the misunderstanding and declare you the winner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 To be fair I had an advantage . I was born in September. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Amateur from players and coach alike for that goal. England's keeper is woeful. Why save it there? And making a sub before a corner? Just atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yep agreed Stefan, everyone knows you never make a sub when defending a corner. England deservedly losing, it's typical England (all football teams) of playing defensively in knockout situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Great header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The standard is shit. Horridly shit. If you were to switch on the BBC and see them showing a pre-season friendly between Billericay vs Enfield then you'd wonder what the **** was going on, but as it is women's football, and you're supposed to like it because Auntie says so, you don't question the brazen waste of licence fee spent on such shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Richardson would have cleared that header Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Actually want Norway to win (I'll be hung for treason I know). After the last win they had changing room photos of their arses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Great comeback by England. Cracking 2nd goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Proper goal with build up and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Actually want Norway to win (I'll be hung for treason I know). After the last win they had changing room photos of their arses... I approve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Well it was a great result for England but it won't be long before they're bitching about each other, cos that's girls innit?! Great 2nd goal BTW, worthy of winning any game, whatever the gender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 MORTEN HARKET! EDVARD MUNCH! OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER! (I can't think of any more famous Norwegian people) Your girls took a HELL OF A BEATING! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Canada next up. Guess if they play like they did second half they have a realistic chance of making the semis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 The standard is shit. Horridly shit. If you were to switch on the BBC and see them showing a pre-season friendly between Billericay vs Enfield then you'd wonder what the **** was going on, but as it is women's football, and you're supposed to like it because Auntie says so, you don't question the brazen waste of licence fee spent on such shite. Did you consider the possibility that perhaps you are not the target demographic for this particular event and that perhaps the demographic most interested in the women's world cup might be ... I don't know ... Women? I am sure that whatever proportion of that 50% of the population that is interested in football, especially those who actually play the sport, would appreciate being able to watch other women competing at the top level of their chosen sport. But that's just me. Our maybe they should be just told to watch men's sport and forget about any crazy 21st century notion that women can actually play and want to excel at sport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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