StefanAVFC Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 South Korea aren't even trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 9, 2015 Author Share Posted June 9, 2015 Every goal is a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Every goal is a mistake thats the same in every level of football, every goal has an error in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I think that's why womens football is looked down on by many. They are comparing it to the mens game instead of just watching it for it's own sake. I think it's looked down on because the quality is disproportionately bad. There are probably lots of genuine reasons for that, not limited to opportunity, investment and interest. I'd get thrashed by a female tennis player, out paced by a female sprinter, out driven by Susie Wolff and competitively embarrassed in almost any sport I can think of by a top female player. But you get the feeling even the top female team could be beaten by a poor Sunday League team. It's not comparing men vs women but amateur vs professional and I'm not sure why women's football is SO poor. I can't workout how low you need to go in the men's game before the female team would have a chance. As has been mentioned several times, the goalkeeping is particularly awful. If one argues the shots have less power etc than the men's game then the ability between outfield players and goalkeepers shouldn't be any different. I.e. poor players have poorer shots so should be saved by poorer goalkeepers. I still watch it, and somewhat enjoy it, but the gap is so big it really is hard not to shake your head at the amateur nature of it. The reasons behind that are probably very complex. But it's not the same feeling you get when you watch women's tennis or athletics etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I think that's why womens football is looked down on by many. They are comparing it to the mens game instead of just watching it for it's own sake. Totally agree but you can't really blame people for that because both the media and people involved in women's football make claims which are frankly ridiculous. So today we have Ex-England manager Hope Powell claiming that women's football deserves its own Match of the Day, for football which is at a much lower standard than what people are complaining about in the World Cup. Also today on the BBC website, they make a ridiculous comparison between a straightforward shot from the edge of the box (Montoya - Colombia) and the chest, swivel and wonder volley (Rodriguez - Colombia), which was voted the best goal in the men's World Cup. When everything is over-hyped like this and people witness the reality, they can't be expected to watch the game for its own sake, or refrain from concluding that they are being bullshitted. I have been a big fan of the women's game for a long time but this sort of BS is ruining the sport. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I don't know what was worse, the football or the atmosphere. Absolute diabolical stuff what I have watched so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So today we have Ex-England manager Hope Powell claiming that women's football deserves its own Match of the Day, for football which is at a much lower standard than what people are complaining about in the World Cup. Soon to be followed by a Rooney-like rule for clubs to give interviews to female managers, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 So today we have Ex-England manager Hope Powell claiming that women's football deserves its own Match of the Day, for football which is at a much lower standard than what people are complaining about in the World Cup. Soon to be followed by a Rooney-like rule for clubs to give interviews to female managers, surely. That is the direction it seems to be heading but I think the main objective at the moment is to get more money into the game. Whether there is much of a market for the women's game is another question entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Good free kick from Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Perfect free kick from Norway. Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) Also today on the BBC website, they make a ridiculous comparison between a straightforward shot from the edge of the box (Montoya - Colombia) and the chest, swivel and wonder volley (Rodriguez - Colombia), which was voted the best goal in the men's World Cup. Glad I'm not the only one to notice this - absolutely ridiculous comparison. While the goal was good by any standard, Rodriguez's was a class above. But what do you expect from the BBC? They have a pretty obvious agenda. Edited June 11, 2015 by Mantis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieZ Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I really hate to join the chorus on this, but the goalkeeping at this Women's World Cup has been positively abysmal. Hope Solo has proved that a much higher standard is possible, but thus far, I've not seen another keeper who even approaches her level. Hopefully, it's an issue of infrastructure and development, and that the standard will improve significantly as the sport grows worldwide. Edited June 12, 2015 by JamieZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Also today on the BBC website, they make a ridiculous comparison between a straightforward shot from the edge of the box (Montoya - Colombia) and the chest, swivel and wonder volley (Rodriguez - Colombia), which was voted the best goal in the men's World Cup. Glad I'm not the only one to notice this - absolutely ridiculous comparison. While the goal was good by any standard, Rodriguez's was a class above. But what do you expect from the BBC? They have a pretty obvious agenda. The BBC have just followed the standard Guardian line of women as permanent victims and ignored so many things which are positive about women's football. They have an article about doing a survey, no doubt full of loaded questions, about the players' experience of sexism. They have one about asking girls why they gave up playing football, and decided that it was not like the rest of us, that priorities change, it was peer-group pressure and society is to blame. Then you have Eniola Aluko (England striker) doing a column, which is about dealing with criticism on social media and needing emotional support. This is terrible, because there is so much to say that is positive about Aluko, in that she provides a fine example of how much a player's game can improve when they turn pro, which she did not long ago. She is also a very highly qualified lawyer but has chosen to play football instead, because as we know, it is the best job in the world, but they still present her, as a down-trodden victim. If you speak to the girls/women who play for the Villa, most of them are very well qualified but choose to play football because they have a passion for the game and know that it is better than having to work for a living. So yes, the BBC have an agenda, and it is the wrong agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Ecuador was shocking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Ecuador was shocking And the BBC didn't bother to show all the goals only Humm's hat-trick. Nigeria were very disappointing, especially as I had been bigging-up Oshoala all week, and they stuck her in midfield and she was anonymous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 the highlights I saw only got to goal 8 and then they stopped coverage. At least Ecuador player got a hat-trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Group of death with USA Aus Swe NGA shaping up very nicely. Any team can potentially finish first to fourth with two games played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 best 3rd place team goes through so a draw might do Sweden vs Australia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Costa Rica's manager is pretty attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) I think that's why womens football is looked down on by many. They are comparing it to the mens game instead of just watching it for it's own sake. I think it's looked down on because the quality is disproportionately bad. There are probably lots of genuine reasons for that, not limited to opportunity, investment and interest. I'd get thrashed by a female tennis player, out paced by a female sprinter, out driven by Susie Wolff and competitively embarrassed in almost any sport I can think of by a top female player. But you get the feeling even the top female team could be beaten by a poor Sunday League team. It's not comparing men vs women but amateur vs professional and I'm not sure why women's football is SO poor. I can't workout how low you need to go in the men's game before the female team would have a chance. As has been mentioned several times, the goalkeeping is particularly awful. If one argues the shots have less power etc than the men's game then the ability between outfield players and goalkeepers shouldn't be any different. I.e. poor players have poorer shots so should be saved by poorer goalkeepers. I still watch it, and somewhat enjoy it, but the gap is so big it really is hard not to shake your head at the amateur nature of it. The reasons behind that are probably very complex. But it's not the same feeling you get when you watch women's tennis or athletics etc. It's the same reason why featherweight boxers are not as popular as your Meyweathers and Klitchos. It doesnt matter if they try and produce the best performance they possibly can. They are limited in their game and people just prefer to watch the best possible athletes, in this case, men. It's always about the hardest punch, the fastest around the track or the most skilful with a football. Edited June 13, 2015 by Mic09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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