sexbelowsound Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) true but if you consistently make a quote like that it will bite you for a long time especially when said manager was actually the worst manager I have seen Villa have I completely agree, Its all in good fun but I think the sell by date on that one has passed now. Some new material is required. Sherwood is going to be better than Mourinho...... Edited June 13, 2015 by sexbelowsound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted June 13, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2015 Is that joke still funny? It's been done a thousand times now. It's not meant to be funny - it's to make a point. Making comparisons without giving someone time to prove themselves is often regrettable.... ... just like that comparison made about our former manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I suppose it was always going to be the case but there are clear double-standards from former ardent Lambert backers towards Sherwood. I mean, Lambert's tactical failures were generally overlooked on the basis of the 'restraints' he had to work under. Whereas when Sherwood gets it wrong it's indicate of wider lack of tactical nous. Lambert constantly 'needed more time' whereas Sherwood can already be dismissed (as a 'shit' manager) or seriously questioned despite never overseeing a full season in his managerial career yet. Like I say, this was always likely seeing as Lambert amassed almost cult-like blind-faith in his ability - no other manager has ever been afforded the same amount of leeway. But I thought it might take a little longer in Sherwood's reign for this to become evident. I guess it boils down to initial perception, Lambert was a popular appointment, Sherwood wasn't. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 And I suppose it was always going to be the case that point scoring and post on poster comments would be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 And I suppose it was always going to be the case that point scoring and post on poster comments would be made I don't believe I mentioned any specific poster. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Whether people thought Lambert was a good manager or not, doesn't have to (and probably doesn't) have anything to do with what they think of Sherwood. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I mean it's not just people who were quite vocal in their support of Lambert, who are unsure that Sherwood's the right man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 How about giving Sherwood a chance eh? Like we did with the previous manager. I feel that certain people here are hoping he fails. Writing him off before he's even had a chance to stamp his authority on the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I hope he turns out to be our best ever Manager. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sexbelowsound Posted June 13, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2015 I hope he turns out to be our best ever Manager. Yep. Its strange to think anyone would have any opinion other than this tbh. I'd have hoped the same for even McLeish. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 That's if he actually plays full back There has already been paper reports that he will be playing CB where he will be a liability and he won't be as good as Vlaar in that position Keith Richards would be an improvement on Vlaar on recent form! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 It's weird, because when there was all the negativity about him before we appointed him, I stuck up for him and said people should give him a chance. He then transformed our season, and yet I've really come to dislike him for some reason. Still I don't have to like someone to want them to do well for the Villa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 It's weird, because when there was all the negativity about him before we appointed him, I stuck up for him and said people should give him a chance. He then transformed our season, and yet I've really come to dislike him for some reason. Still I don't have to like someone to want them to do well for the Villa. "It's just business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I'm not sold on him. I think he is a better Paulo di canio Too early to make that sort of rather silly judgement. I supported Lambert for two seasons, so I will give Sherwood some time as well. One thing he has definitely done is pull us out of the hole that Lambert had burrowed us into, and at this stage keeping us in the League was as much as I hoped for. If he proves to be deficient in the coming season, we can jettison him happy in the knowledge that he carried out the most important part of his remit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I hope he turns out to be our best ever Manager. What, better than Lambert?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Why not, let us and Sherwood reach for the stars. Edited June 13, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gharperr Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Yep. Its strange to think anyone would have any opinion other than this tbh. they dont lol. Edited June 13, 2015 by gharperr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I mean it's not just people who were quite vocal in their support of Lambert, who are unsure that Sherwood's the right man for the job. Nothing wrong with thinking that. I'm saying that there should still be consistancy in the standards applied to different managers. If certain people didn't criticise Lambert for x, they shouldn't do so with Sherwood. If they believed Lambert deserved x amount of time before judgement is made, that should also apply to his successor. Obviously it depends on circumstances too, like if we hired a manager who has proven quite clearly to be crap in their career, then he doesn't warrant the same reservation of judgement. However Sherwood hasn't even had a full season of management in his career, he is the definition of unproven. Yet it seems that he is on a hiding to nothing in some quarters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I suppose it was always going to be the case but there are clear double-standards from former ardent Lambert backers towards Sherwood. I mean, Lambert's tactical failures were generally overlooked on the basis of the 'restraints' he had to work under. Whereas when Sherwood gets it wrong it's indicate of wider lack of tactical nous. Lambert constantly 'needed more time' whereas Sherwood can already be dismissed (as a 'shit' manager) or seriously questioned despite never overseeing a full season in his managerial career yet. Like I say, this was always likely seeing as Lambert amassed almost cult-like blind-faith in his ability - no other manager has ever been afforded the same amount of leeway. But I thought it might take a little longer in Sherwood's reign for this to become evident. I guess it boils down to initial perception, Lambert was a popular appointment, Sherwood wasn't. This is true - but also, there are some who wanted Lambert out who throw toys out of the pram when Sherwood's mistakes are brought up. He has made mistakes, some of them Lambert-esque, which does worry me. BUT he needs to be able to buy in players for the job he thinks he needs to do. If Richards is the start of that, then I am quite happy - I just hope he does play right back and can stay fit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 I supported Lambert for two seasons, so I will give Sherwood some time as well. One thing he has definitely done is pull us out of the hole that Lambert had burrowed us into, and at this stage keeping us in the League was as much as I hoped for. If he proves to be deficient in the coming season, we can jettison him happy in the knowledge that he carried out the most important part of his remit.. Well said. Some weirdness but also some great football from him so far, and amusing in interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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