Dr_Pangloss Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Vardy for 15mil, Clark to West Brom, Micah Richards... Massively worrying rumours. Have we been linked to any good transfer moves besides selling Lowton and Weimann? Don't forget the two Swindon lads who turned us down because they didn't feel they were good enough for the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Vardy for 15mil, Clark to West Brom, Micah Richards... Massively worrying rumours. Have we been linked to any good transfer moves besides selling Lowton and Weimann? Villa don't do transfers in the press, rumours are exactly that, nothing worrying whatsoever Indeed, there does seem to be a bit of substance to the Richards rumours and I think he would be a good signing. As for Vardy and Clark leaving, nothing but wild rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted June 14, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Vardy for 15mil, Clark to West Brom, Micah Richards... Massively worrying rumours. You're going to be in for a very long summer mate if a few poxy rumours are making you massively worried in mid June. Looking at Sherwood overall as we all knew when he arrived there is a lot of the unknown about him simply due to the fact he has very little first team managerial experience. As a mere supporter with no inside knowledge as to what goes on at Bodymoor Heath or in the dressing room prior to a game I simply judge him on what he has achieved in terms of results and performances in his brief time in management. I think overall at Spurs given he inherited someones else's squad and never got to sign a player of his own he did a very good job. A 50 odd percent win percentage was more than decent. As for what he has done here so far I think in simply keeping us up he has done remarkably well. I struggle to think of a manger in my time having to inherit as much of a shambles as Sherwood did and have so little time to turn it around. Graham Taylor inherited a massive mess in 1987 but he had a pre season to implement his ideas and bring in his own players. Sherwood inherited a squad with zero confidence and absolutlely no idea how to create a decent chance let alone score goals. He inherited a squad that wasn't his and had no transfer window to bring in his own players. To turn them around so qucikly and keep them up was some achievement. The end to the season was disappointing. Certainly the 6-1 at Southampton and the no show in the final. However I refuse to let that glosss over the fact that he kept my team, that was for me nailed on to be relegated under his predecessor, up. When he was appointted had I been offered survival I'd have snapped your hands off and I beleive we all would. The fact we also got to a final was simply a huge bonus. The fact still remains, as it was when he was appointed, that Sherwood has never signed a player. Has never bulit his own squad. Never had a pre season to work with a squad of players. What he has done at both Spurs and more importantly here is earn the right to be given the chance to do just that. To bring in his own players, to mould that squad and implement his ideas onto them of how he would like to play. I don't for one second believe that we have seen how Sherwood wants to play. Not even close to it. When he arrived he had to quickly access what he had at his disposal and implement some very basic tactics to try to get something out of a group of players on its knees and thankfully he did that. How we play next season could well be very different. I don't know how things will pan out with Sherwood. Non of us do. What I am happy to do though, and what I hope the majority of fans will do, is allow him some time to build his own squad without jumping on every potential signing before seeing how they will fit in to Sherwoods jigsaw. Then when the season starts give his squad a fair crack of the whip in terms of allowing them some time to develop. I know some had reserevations about him when he arrived, in fact some were dead against his appointment, but I think given what he has done here so far he has at the very least earned the right to be given a fair crack of the whip with his own squad before any of us jump on his back. Edited June 14, 2015 by markavfc40 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Couldn't disagree more. From the short spell we've seen under him, he's set us up to play better football, got players performing better and brought out the best in our most important player. That wasn't done because he got them working harder through motivation, its from the way the team have been set up and the way they've approached games tactically IMO. Awful: Southampton, Arsenal Poor: Newcastle, Stoke, Swansea, QPR, Burnley, Man United. Good: Everton, West Brom x2, West Ham Very good: Man City, Liverpool, Spurs, Sunderland I think the performances under him are split, as above. From your poor list, Stoke and Newcastle were two games without any of his coaches having had chance to work with the players. And I didn't think Swansea was too bad, thought we deserved a draw. And QPR wasn't tactically poor, we looked like we were going to score every single time we attacked. The problem was Richardson and other defenders had a mare. I'll stick with my original point. The good performances were not just down to motivation IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Vardy for 15mil, Clark to West Brom, Micah Richards... Massively worrying rumours. Have we been linked to any good transfer moves besides selling Lowton and Weimann? Don't forget the two Swindon lads who turned us down because they didn't feel they were good enough for the premier league. Worrying times. Apart from the one nailed on signing we're actually making. But yes, very worrying if we go by paper gossip and rumour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) Afaik Luongo deal was real the player confirmed it himself and Sherwood was scouting him and was seen at the games, this wasn't paper gossip. He preferred QPR as he didn't think he would play much here. Edited June 14, 2015 by dudevillaisnice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Afaik Luongo deal was real the player confirmed it himself and Sherwood was scouting him and was seen at the games, this wasn't paper gossip. He preferred QPR as he didn't think he would play much here. Not sure he confirmed it was us but even so, I don't find that worrying for us one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 No other club was linked to him in the premier league, it was us. Hardly the definition of a winner that we are targeting anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneNightInRotterdam Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I wouldn't worry about the Vardy bid, somehow don't think the Metro or the Mirror are reliable transfer reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I understand what you're saying Mark but this is Villa and this is the unknown - experience tells us to be fear it and be worried, especially in the last few years. There's nothing wrong with being both appreciative that Sherwood kept us up but also doubtful that he'll make the right signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Afaik Luongo deal was real the player confirmed it himself and Sherwood was scouting him and was seen at the games, this wasn't paper gossip. He preferred QPR as he didn't think he would play much here. IIRC it was actually the other player that said he thought it was a step to far. Did Luongo also say that as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Not sure about step too far but this is from Luongo Luongo, who played a pivotal part in the Socceroos’ triumph at the Asian Cup in January, scoring in the final on the way to being named player of the tournament, is relishing the move to Loftus Road, commenting: “Regular football is important to me. That’s why QPR appealed to me. I’m at my best when I’m playing week in, week out – I’m all for playing as many games as possible in a season. http://mobile.qpr.co.uk//news/article/massimo-luongo-joins-qpr-from-swindon-town-2474048.aspx At a guess I'd imagine we offered a squad role not a starter role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Not sure about step too far but this is from Luongo Luongo, who played a pivotal part in the Socceroos’ triumph at the Asian Cup in January, scoring in the final on the way to being named player of the tournament, is relishing the move to Loftus Road, commenting: “Regular football is important to me. That’s why QPR appealed to me. I’m at my best when I’m playing week in, week out – I’m all for playing as many games as possible in a season. http://mobile.qpr.co.uk//news/article/massimo-luongo-joins-qpr-from-swindon-town-2474048.aspx At a guess I'd imagine we offered a squad role not a starter role. Ah, fair enough. The other player did say he thought it was a step to far in his career but I hadn't seen those comments from Luongo. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 No other club was linked to him in the premier league, it was us. Hardly the definition of a winner that we are targeting anyway. just because wasnt linked doesnt mean their wasnt interest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Just signing English players is a worry. Look how rubbish the England national team are, and we won't even be signing the so-called cream of crop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 No other club was linked to him in the premier league, it was us. Hardly the definition of a winner that we are targeting anyway. just because wasnt linked doesnt mean their wasnt interest And just because someone is linked doesnt mean there is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Just signing English players is a worry. Look how rubbish the England national team are, and we won't even be signing the so-called cream of crop. Who says we are going to? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 Just signing English players is a worry. Look how rubbish the England national team are, and we won't even be signing the so-called cream of crop. Who says we are going to? No one specifically, but the warning signs are there, I don't thin it's an often expressed concern for nothing. If we go down that route, I fear we are going to have a very low ceiling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 What warning signs?? Think you're making a mountain of a mole hill. The transfer window isn't officially open yet, sherwood hasn't been in charge of club during a transfer window before. Just because the odd couple of rumours have been English players doesn't mean that sherwood has got a dossier of foreign players who he wants to sign. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I didn't say that he was definitely going to sign only English players just that it's a worrying thought. In a recent interview Sherwood talked about the influx of foreigners into the Premier league, and in the very next sentence spoke of there being too many losers in the game today, seemed to me like he was making a link between the two. Also there are a few interviews with him before he signed where he bemoaned the lack of chances given to young English players because of foreign talent. Plus the media might not get every link right but they often have a general idea. Edited June 14, 2015 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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