HanoiVillan Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 I would've slit my wrists at the thought of Hoddle being manager. As a No. 2, it's tolerable. Yep, Glenn Hoddle certainly is a No. 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electronicmaji Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Lol people think Van Gaal is actually good now? WTF, Luis Van Gaal? this Luis Van Gaal? Managerial honours Club Ajax Eredivisie: 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96 KNVB Cup: 1992–93 Johan Cruijff Shield: 1993, 1994, 1995 UEFA Champions League: 1994–95 UEFA Cup: 1991–92 UEFA Super Cup: 1995 Intercontinental Cup: 1995 Barcelona La Liga: 1997–98, 1998–99 Copa del Rey: 1997–98 UEFA Super Cup: 1997 AZ Eredivisie: 2008–09 Bayern Munich Bundesliga: 2009–10 DFB-Pokal: 2009–10 DFB-Supercup: 2010 International Netherlands FIFA World Cup third place: 2014 Awards and achievements World Soccer Manager of the Year: 1995[93] Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1995[94] Rinus Michels Award: 2007, 2009[95] Dutch Sports Coach of the Year: 2009, 2014[96][97] Die Sprachwahrer des Jahres (3rd place): 2009[98] German Football Manager of the Year: 2010[99] The one who created the just incredible Ajax that last won the champions league for them? The one who's won trophies in 3 countries and managed some of the biggest teams in world football? Yeah actually I do think he's "good now". Back in the **** 90s. Do you know how much managing the sport has changed since then? He was considered a failure at Bayern when managed there. Lacklustre at Barcelona, and he's done a pretty horrid job at Manure. He is a coach that is far beyond his golden days. His strategies do not work in modern football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Hopefully he will be watching from the stands today. If we are struggling he can come down and sort this shit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 15, 2015 Moderator Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) So van Gaal didn't manage the Holland team that beat Spain 5-1 last summer then? Anyway back on topic. Come on Tim! Give the lads a rousing team talk today and let's bash these crisp munchers out of the cup! Edited February 15, 2015 by NurembergVillan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electronicmaji Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) . Edited February 15, 2015 by electronicmaji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well it was glaringly obvious we needed Lambert out and a change. We missed a trick not doing this earlier in the season (or in the summer it should have been imo). But the board obviously had faith PL could turn it around. Oh well we are where we are now and we have to get behind timmeh gillet. Truth is no one knows what impact he will have on what is a sufficient playing staff that should be able to get us out of the bottom 3. So many people like to make predictions on whats going to happen but no one knows. There werent many options out there for us to consider but im glad we got someone in who knows the English game rather than taking a punt on a foreigner. At least he wont have favourites who will play every week regardless of form. Im pretty sure he will go into this in a positive manner and we just have to believe the players will take to his methods and start enjoying playing football again. It will also be nice to have a manager who will proactive with in-game management, someone who will counteract the opposing sides' tactics and changes- something Lambert never did and probably cost us a lot of the time. Welcome Sherwood, and good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 One thing I hope for is not relying on the full backs for creativity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 There are calculated risks and there are blind gambles. I think we have gone with the latter, but sometimes they give the most excitement.WBA went for a calculated risk with Pepe Mel. Who would most rather have, Pepe Mel or Tim Sherwood? I'm in the same boat as most people, in that he wasn't my first choice. However, I'm actually quite optimistic and hopeful. As someone said last night, we have the players to play well, they're just severely lacking confidence and the tactics/coaching appears non-existent. Sherwood will bring confidence, coaching and (by default, as Lambert's weren't working) new tactics. If he pisses a few people off, so what? If a few players don't buy into his plans to make us better, and they get frozen out, good! If he wears a gilet and talks about apples and pears, so what!? I can see why some people are sceptical, as his managerial career has been very short, but he's supposedly been a very good coach for a number of years (you don't get given the interim Spurs job unless you're one one of, if not the best, coach in their back room staff). Good luck Tim! I think you'll get some of our lads firing and I hope you prove your doubters wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 15, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2015 Disappointed that we went British. Again. It's like going to an ice-cream shop, looking at all the different flavours and deciding to really spice things up.... ....by ordering a slightly different flavour of the usual vanilla. I'm hoping he can shake things up nonetheless. Good Luck, Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is it all football fans or just Villa ones that seem intent on planting their flag one side or the other and not budging? I think he's a cock, but nobody can know what will happen You'll look a bit silly complaining if he keeps us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 15, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2015 Lol people think Van Gaal is actually good now? WTF, Luis Van Gaal? this Luis Van Gaal? Managerial honours Club Ajax Eredivisie: 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96 KNVB Cup: 1992–93 Johan Cruijff Shield: 1993, 1994, 1995 UEFA Champions League: 1994–95 UEFA Cup: 1991–92 UEFA Super Cup: 1995 Intercontinental Cup: 1995 Barcelona La Liga: 1997–98, 1998–99 Copa del Rey: 1997–98 UEFA Super Cup: 1997 AZ Eredivisie: 2008–09 Bayern Munich Bundesliga: 2009–10 DFB-Pokal: 2009–10 DFB-Supercup: 2010 International Netherlands FIFA World Cup third place: 2014 Awards and achievements World Soccer Manager of the Year: 1995[93] Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1995[94] Rinus Michels Award: 2007, 2009[95] Dutch Sports Coach of the Year: 2009, 2014[96][97] Die Sprachwahrer des Jahres (3rd place): 2009[98] German Football Manager of the Year: 2010[99] The one who created the just incredible Ajax that last won the champions league for them? The one who's won trophies in 3 countries and managed some of the biggest teams in world football? Yeah actually I do think he's "good now". Back in the **** 90s. Do you know how much managing the sport has changed since then? He was considered a failure at Bayern when managed there. Lacklustre at Barcelona, and he's done a pretty horrid job at Manure. He is a coach that is far beyond his golden days. His strategies do not work in modern football. Won the league plus other trophies with both Bayern and Barcelona, his out of date tactics were one of the best things to watch in the world cup. Just out of interest if Van Gaal isn't a good manager, who is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Well Tim is now the manager of Aston Villa, he might not be everyone's cup of tea but he is our new manager so lets get behind him. If he can improve on the anti football we have been playing and tell it like it is ( instead of we played well and we will go again) then that will be an improvement. If we go on to lose every game and not score then fair enough but the bloke has just been given the job if you dont like if go support small heath!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGabbana Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Still so much negativity..some of these posts are mind boggling. Slating our new manager before hes even started, some of our fans are a joke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted February 15, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is it all football fans or just Villa ones that seem intent on planting their flag one side or the other and not budging? I think he's a cock, but nobody can know what will happen You'll look a bit silly complaining if he keeps us up. 2 camps seem to form pretty early on VT that's for sure. There's just nothing to go on really to be able to judge how he'll get on here, hopefully he turns out to be the man who gets us back up near the top of the league again. In terms of our survival we NEED this appointment to give us momentum in the next 5 league fixtures, start with a win at Stoke and then who knows. He's a million miles away from Lambert in terms of PR, he'll be the media's darling but if I'm honest I'd prefer the criticism stayed in the dressing room, but I may be old school in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pichichi Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Lol people think Van Gaal is actually good now? WTF, Luis Van Gaal? this Luis Van Gaal? Managerial honours Club Ajax Eredivisie: 1993–94, 1994–95, 1995–96 KNVB Cup: 1992–93 Johan Cruijff Shield: 1993, 1994, 1995 UEFA Champions League: 1994–95 UEFA Cup: 1991–92 UEFA Super Cup: 1995 Intercontinental Cup: 1995 Barcelona La Liga: 1997–98, 1998–99 Copa del Rey: 1997–98 UEFA Super Cup: 1997 AZ Eredivisie: 2008–09 Bayern Munich Bundesliga: 2009–10 DFB-Pokal: 2009–10 DFB-Supercup: 2010 International Netherlands FIFA World Cup third place: 2014 Awards and achievements World Soccer Manager of the Year: 1995[93] Onze d'Or Coach of the Year: 1995[94] Rinus Michels Award: 2007, 2009[95] Dutch Sports Coach of the Year: 2009, 2014[96][97] Die Sprachwahrer des Jahres (3rd place): 2009[98] German Football Manager of the Year: 2010[99] The one who created the just incredible Ajax that last won the champions league for them? The one who's won trophies in 3 countries and managed some of the biggest teams in world football? Yeah actually I do think he's "good now". Back in the **** 90s. Do you know how much managing the sport has changed since then? He was considered a failure at Bayern when managed there. Lacklustre at Barcelona, and he's done a pretty horrid job at Manure. He is a coach that is far beyond his golden days. His strategies do not work in modern football. People come out with some pretty embarrassing comments on this forum but that's next level. Lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 One thing I hope for is not relying on the full backs for creativity. Based on his time at Spurs I think that is unlikely. He won't try to be too clever tactically, it will be a variation of 4-4-2 utilising width and pace. They were a bit swashbuckling, there won't be many 0-0's that's for sure. I was chatting with my mate last night and we decided he is the Anti-Lambert in almost every sense. If you can put your prejudices aside it should be fun. When was the last time we had fun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Is it all football fans or just Villa ones that seem intent on planting their flag one side or the other and not budging? I think he's a cock, but nobody can know what will happen You'll look a bit silly complaining if he keeps us up. 2 camps seem to form pretty early on VT that's for sure. There's just nothing to go on really to be able to judge how he'll get on here, hopefully he turns out to be the man who gets us back up near the top of the league again. In terms of our survival we NEED this appointment to give us momentum in the next 5 league fixtures, start with a win at Stoke and then who knows. He's a million miles away from Lambert in terms of PR, he'll be the media's darling but if I'm honest I'd prefer the criticism stayed in the dressing room, but I may be old school in that regard. Is that old school? Managers used to be much more forthcoming with criticism. Back when footballers were men that is. Personally couldn't give a shit about the PR and I'm already over thinking that he's a prick. If the football is fun and we score goals and pick up points then I'm happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 15, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2015 Still so much negativity..some of these posts are mind boggling. Slating our new manager before hes even started, some of our fans are a joke Interesting. I don't see negativity. Nor do I see 2 camps What I do see is people saying they are disappointed as he was not their first choice - but they all want him to prove them wrong. So there seems to be only 1 camp: People hoping we do well under Tim. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Well Tim is now the manager of Aston Villa, he might not be everyone's cup of tea but he is our new manager so lets get behind him. If he can improve on the anti football we have been playing and tell it like it is ( instead of we played well and we will go again) then that will be an improvement. If we go on to lose every game and not score then fair enough but the bloke has just been given the job if you dont like if go support small heath!!! I saw one of his interviews where they had won and when asked about the game he said it was good to win but, he was more pleased with the way in which they played entertaining football, which was important to him. Let's face it, entertainment is something that Villa fans have been denied for quite some time. Whether he can bring that or not is a different matter because we don't have the quality of players that Spurs have. I'll say this for him. He seems honest and to the point. It will upset the shirkers and please the workers. To get a good squad of decent and honest players he will need time. So, with that in mind, can we please not crucify the man until he's at least had chance to get rid of those that aren't worth the shirt. Now, that might mean we get relegated. If we do, the blame cannot lie totally with him. Most of the damage was done before he came here and he's bought none of those players that he will have to get playing for him. He wasn't my idea of a manager for us but, to be fair, I don't know who was. Therefore, I'm going to give Tim Sherwood plenty of time to get to where he wants to be at the Villa, even if we get relegated. Edited February 15, 2015 by villarocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 One thing I hope for is not relying on the full backs for creativity. Based on his time at Spurs I think that is unlikely. He won't try to be too clever tactically, it will be a variation of 4-4-2 utilising width and pace. They were a bit swashbuckling, there won't be many 0-0's that's for sure. I was chatting with my mate last night and we decided he is the Anti-Lambert in almost every sense. If you can put your prejudices aside it should be fun. When was the last time we had fun? Hoping it works out then. Next week Vrs Stoke is the one I am looking forward to. It'll be the first time we have played 442 in a while I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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