heffoman Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Pro evo has lied to me about how good Embolo is. I don't know what to believe in anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted June 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2016 Albania maybe in the knockouts, thats a new one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Czech/Turkey draw and Albania qualify. Happy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted June 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2016 We could play Albania if we win the group! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Albania fans were awesome, more of them and louder than the NI fans... romania fans were shite, you could see the 2 sets of ultras, spent most of the game singing different songs to everyone else meaning they never really got an atmosphere going, they were pretty much what I think brigada do at VP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Thought France were very poor tonight. No cohesion. Agree for once with Linekar, they don't know their strongest team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 hour ago, heffoman said: Pro evo has lied to me about how good Embolo is. I don't know what to believe in anymore. Aye it's clear he has talent but he looks like a raw version of Lukaku if that's possible. And just think a year ago plenty of people on here wanted us to sign him presuming he'd take to the premier league like Benteke did. A year on and he still looks a way off that. Bit like that Oulare guy who Watford signed and has not been heard of again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/18/2016 at 21:51, kurtsimonw said: Austria the worst side in the tournament so far. How bad are the teams in the group they qualified from!? I watched them in qualifying and had them as dark horses . the 3 teams that got through from that group have been woeful so far so probably says a lot of the quality of that group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 15 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Czech/Turkey draw and Albania qualify. Happy for them. dont they need Belgium to win as well or Norn Iron to take a bad beating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2016 I think in your defence, Austria were a dark horse. But the nature of dark horses is that they can badly flatter to deceive. Which is why they were off the radar to start with. I remember having Serbia as a dark horse in a previous tournament when their stars were in their prime and they bombed badly aswell. This Austria side have plenty of talent. They just haven't done it yet. Who knows. Maybe there was even a weight of expectation on them from back home that they're not used to. Austria are not used to being favourites or anything close to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, BOF said: I think in your defence, Austria were a dark horse. But the nature of dark horses is that they can badly flatter to deceive. Which is why they were off the radar to start with. I remember having Serbia as a dark horse in a previous tournament when their stars were in their prime and they bombed badly aswell. This Austria side have plenty of talent. They just haven't done it yet. Who knows. Maybe there was even a weight of expectation on them from back home that they're not used to. Austria are not used to being favourites or anything close to that. im more pissed i had Arnatuovic has top scorer, dont think he has even took a shot yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Ireland vs Italy pitch in Lille is meant to be shocking, probably our best chance of getting a result now on a quagmire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2016 I also agree that Croatia are a level above 'dark horse'. I'd have them just below the elite. Well capable of beating anyone on their day. Best of the rest and good enough to win it outright if everything fell into place for them. Although I can't see past the usual suspects at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 20, 2016 Austria seemed to be everybody's dark horses. They've been utter shite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Poland are the definition of a dark horse I think. Not elite but could beat anyone on their day. Edited June 20, 2016 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2016 I'll be honest. I just find Poland to be incredibly dull with one star player. I don't have them anywhere near the quality of Croatia for example. When your star is a striker then yes on your day you'll play spoiler, but over the course of a competition I don't think they have the players to be able to rely on them from one round to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 hopefully we get hungry or albania be best opponents for us next round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 32 minutes ago, BOF said: This Austria side have plenty of talent. They just haven't done it yet. Who knows. Maybe there was even a weight of expectation on them from back home that they're not used to. Austria are not used to being favourites or anything close to that. Do they have talent? I've not seen anything to suggest they aren't one of the poorest teams there. I'm not seeing the talent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 26 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Austria seemed to be everybody's dark horses. They've been utter shite. Most disappointing team with the most disappointing player in Alaba. Ronaldo, Muller, Lewandowski and many others have been disappointing, but been involved in a large amount of their teams good play. Alaba has been completely invisible for someone labelled "God". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, Xela said: Do they have talent? I've not seen anything to suggest they aren't one of the poorest teams there. I'm not seeing the talent there. They have players playing at a very high level for their clubs. Plenty of them; in fact most of them; play in the Bundesliga and then you have the likes of Alaba who is a star for Bayern and Arnautovic playing beneath himself at Stoke. Fuchs just won the Premier League. This is the best Austrian side in my lifetime and on paper they were plenty capable of doing far more than they have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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