Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Xela said: For a country of its size, Russia have been awful for ages they have never been good since the break up of the USSR. 2008 aside they have always flattered to deceive and even then they only turned up for 2 good games said it before they have a woeful youth structure, decent technical players but for some reason have no speed or tempo in their game. also they travel absolute terribly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 33 minutes ago, PaulC said: I would slightly disagree about Ledanowski. I'd have 2nd best behind Suarez. I'd have Higuain at #1 personally. His goal rate is ridiculous and his supporting cast is light years away from the other two mentioend. Insigne/Callejon/Hamsik v Muller/Gotze/Coman/Ribery/Robben/etc v Neymar/Rakitic/Iniesta/Messi. Suarez #2, Lewandowski #3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 1 minute ago, Zatman said: they have never been good since the break up of the USSR. 2008 aside they have always flattered to deceive and even then they only turned up for 2 good games said it before they have a woeful youth structure, decent technical players but for some reason have no speed or tempo in their game. also they travel absolute terribly They play like they truly do not care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 or they all actually fancy a holiday to Siberia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Just now, Zatman said: they have never been good since the break up of the USSR. 2008 aside they have always flattered to deceive and even then they only turned up for 2 good games said it before they have a woeful youth structure, decent technical players but for some reason have no speed or tempo in their game. also they travel absolute terribly Yeah I was thinking when I posted that the last decent team was the USSR team in the mid/late 80's with the likes of Protasov, Belanov, Zavarov. Mikhailichenko and slightly before that time, Oleg Blokhin, but I think most of those, if not all, were Ukrainian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 So pre tournament I had a small bet on Bale top scorer at 50/1 and Wales to reach quarters at shit 3/1... Only £1 on each, but hey nice if it comes in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Loved watching Russia in 2008, Arshavin at his pomp and Pavlychenko had a good tournament which fooled Spurs into massively overpaying for him. They were unlucky to meet Spain in semis after playing them in group stages, could easily have made final otherwise. This edition has just got old tbh, said it before but given they're hosting world cup in two years time I'm amazed they have so many 30 + year olds not just in squad but actual starting 11. Why not just use this as a trial tournament for young players? To me Ukraine have flattered to deceive more...they never did much with Rebrov and Shevchenko (their WC 2006 quarter finals was a really easy run before Italy swatted them aside) and were woeful v Norn Iron despite having the two hyped wide boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I'd have Higuain at #1 personally. His goal rate is ridiculous and his supporting cast is light years away from the other two mentioend. Insigne/Callejon/Hamsik v Muller/Gotze/Coman/Ribery/Robben/etc v Neymar/Rakitic/Iniesta/Messi. Suarez #2, Lewandowski #3 Not at International level, Argie fans can't stand Higuain with him missing sitters in Copa and World cup final. Suarez number one these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The way teams have set up against us has been quite flattering tbf. You'd think they were playing Barcelona. All three opponents clearly terrified of us. Not sure why, but there you go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 43 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Not at International level, Argie fans can't stand Higuain with him missing sitters in Copa and World cup final. Suarez number one these days. I don't think it matters what Argentina fans think tbh. Every country has their scapegoat - it's often one of the better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Argie fans arent fond of Messi either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I've put these as the results for the 8 remaining games: Poland beat Ukraine German beat Northern Ireland Czech beat Turkey Spain beat Croatia Austria beat Iceland Portugal beat Hungary Italy beat Ireland Belgium beat Sweden Englands route would be: Hungary, France, Germany, Final Wales route would be: Croatia, Belgium, Spain, Final I'd argue ours is slightly easier IMO. Also, I noticed - with the above results - if you change Ireland to beat Italy, then ROI go through at the expense of NI. Would be interesting! Czech/Turkey ending in a draw would mean Wales play Albania and Italy play Croatia - Wales should be cheering on the draw! Edited June 21, 2016 by kurtsimonw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 21, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2016 36 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I've put these as the results for the 8 remaining games: Poland beat Ukraine ✓ German beat Northern Ireland ✓ Czech beat Turkey ✓ Spain beat Croatia x Austria beat Iceland x Portugal beat Hungary ✓ Italy beat Ireland x Belgium beat Sweden ✓ That doesn't mean the 'x' will be the other way around. Just that I think at least some of them will be draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Knock out games. Just play the team in front of you and enjoy it. Albania or Croatia? Not really bothered as long as their fans are loud and friendly and their players repeatedly trip up ours just outside their penalty box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Well, so much for Germany pulling an England and complacently resting half the team. Norn Iron are in for a spanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Haven't been this nervous for a Czech match in a long while. Turkey have been Russia level bad this tournament, but we have looked pretty shit as well. Hopefully our late game come back against Croatia sparked this team again. The Czechs that have shown up for these Euros were not the same team that qualified. We look so docile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted June 21, 2016 Moderator Share Posted June 21, 2016 6 minutes ago, CarewsEyebrowDesigner said: Well, so much for Germany pulling an England and complacently resting half the team. Norn Iron are in for a spanking. Given that Germany absolutely need something from this game, they were never going to be taking it lightly. That point was made last night in the preview of tonight's games. Souness and Lennon didn't fancy NI's chances, but you never know ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Outstanding save from the NI keeper. They needed to lose by less than 4-0 and McGovern is the difference between them achieving that and not, brilliant performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 22 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Outstanding save from the NI keeper. They needed to lose by less than 4-0 and McGovern is the difference between them achieving that and not, brilliant performance. Have you seen his wiki page.. Someone acted fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Ew, O'Neill had to shake Löw's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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