VillaChris Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Reckon Ireland group and France group (can see Albania getting draw with Romania as they've been unlucky to lose first two games) will be the two groups where 3rd place teams miss out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 There are a lot of noisy Albanians here I'll be amazed if they don't control the atmosphere inside the ground, I think it could be as much as 2:1, on paper Romania probably should win but now I'm not so sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 4 hours ago, sne said: This picture illustrates why I don't like the new Euro tournament set up. It's in Swedish, but in short it explains how the results in the last games will determine if Sweden can go through. Green we'll advance as #2 in the group Yellow as #3 Red we're knocked out Blue it's any ones guess, best ranked team goes through? We'll get hammered by Belgium so it's all academic, but this system is a total joke. It shouldn't take a supercomputer to understand which teams go through to the next round in a simple football tournament. Isn't it a lot simpler than that in reality? Finish in the top 2 and you're through. Finish 3rd and it's a bit of a lottery, but you've nobody to blame but yourself for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Just now, dont_do_it_doug. said: Isn't it a lot simpler than that in reality? Finish in the top 2 and you're through. Finish 3rd and it's a bit of a lottery, but you've nobody to blame but yourself for that For Sweden yes but overall it's just a total mess. Playing in the later groups gives you the advantage of knowing the results in the other groups. Meaning you can play on the results in the final group game. It's just not fair. Joke system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) Any tournament that a third place team in a group of four can still get through to the next stage is wrong. Its basically rewarding mediocrity. As Shearer said last night, the quality of the football has got worse compared to previous Euros Edited June 19, 2016 by Xela 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 But think of the extra TV money! It's a system which didn't work in the World Cup in 1990 or 1994 so they switched to a 32 team format. The World Cup can afford to do that though, FIFA has 200 members. UEFA only has 55 members so going to a 32 team format for the finals makes a mockery of the qualification while having a 16 team format is apparently leaving money on the table. As a result we get this half assed 24 team format but basically what @dont_do_it_doug. said is correct, finish in the top two and you don't have to worry about it. Whining about not qualifying in third place is a bit like whining when you finish third in the Championship and don't get promoted by the playoffs, you didn't win anything and you weren't even runners up so there are no grounds for complaint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2016 5 hours ago, heffoman said: Seen this stat on the internet so it's 100% true. Lionel Messi could fail to score from his next 147 freekicks and still have the same conversion rate (2/1%) as Cristiano Ronaldo. Ronaldo is probably the most overrated free kick taker since Roberto Carlos. When they go in they look amazing. But his conversion rate is appalling. Most of Ronaldo's free kicks hit the wall. And it's been that way since his United days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 is the football worse? only Spain has convincingly beaten anyone. the quality seems more balanced if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Belgium thumped Ireland too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2016 I'm actually enjoying the new format. I like that nearly everybody has something to play for in the last game because they have a chance of going through. There aren't going to be many, if any, dead rubbers in this final round of group games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The_Rev said: Belgium thumped Ireland too. oh yeah. but the top teams have hardly been convincing so far. I just don't think it's correct to explain the lack of goals or poor quality games on the increase in teams at the tournament. 24 might make the system slightly awkward, but I don't know, it's quite interesting seeing smaller countries have the opportunity to play, certainly in the case of someone like Iceland they're not here as whipping boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'm actually enjoying the new format. I like that nearly everybody has something to play for in the last game because they have a chance of going through. There aren't going to be many, if any, dead rubbers in this final round of group games. this too. each team has to perform in every game, there will be less resting in final games and should test a teams squad a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Pogba showing what the hypes about this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Pogba is in the mood tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, a m ole said: oh yeah. but the top teams have hardly been convincing so far. I just don't think it's correct to explain the lack of goals or poor quality games on the increase in teams at the tournament. 24 might make the system slightly awkward, but I don't know, it's quite interesting seeing smaller countries have the opportunity to play, certainly in the case of someone like Iceland they're not here as whipping boys. Iceland would have qualified without the expanded format anyway, right? And Wales, and Northern Ireland. Edited June 19, 2016 by The_Rev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Still yet to be overly convinced by Griezeman, based on this tournament alone I don't see the hype. Coman is bloody rapid, going to be some player in the future. As said before, very raw but Emboolo has a bright future as well. On a side note has anyone seen that Ronaldo advert about muscle toners? One of the gayest adverts I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Griezmann was brilliant for Atleti this season, he didn't play well in the Champions League final and he's been quiet in this tournament too (though he did score the decisive goal last week). He's a good player, has a better than 1 in 2 strike rate for Atletico Madrid which is excellent considering they are such a defensively minded team. Perhaps the French system doesn't suit him as much as the one his club play or perhaps he isn't fully fit. Also as I type another Swiss shirt has ripped. Did they buy some dodgy ones from the market outside the stadium or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Why do France have a better England kit than England? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: Still yet to be overly convinced by Griezeman, based on this tournament alone I don't see the hype. Coman is bloody rapid, going to be some player in the future. As said before, very raw but Emboolo has a bright future as well. On a side note has anyone seen that Ronaldo advert about muscle toners? One of the gayest adverts I've ever seen. Saw it the other day and thought it was incredibly strange. The whole lighting of the advert makes it look like they've photoshopped his head onto a random body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted June 19, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted June 19, 2016 That was worth a better end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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