Isa Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 For me a deal is surely close to completion!?!? If Keane was in the running for the Celtic job and has now removed himself from the list, for what? A number two role at a club in uncertainty? I can't see it myself. I think that he's had assurances from the new owners - I hope so anyway!! According to the Mail article, here is why he turned down the Celtic job:It had appeared Celtic would appoint the 42-year-old as their manager but it is understood a lack of transfer funds and the probable loss of England goalkeeper Fraser Forster swayed Keane’s mind. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2647709/John-Terry-World-Cup-ITV-look-replacement-Roy-Keane.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 So we made a 52m loss based on the new deal? Now I can see why no one would want to buy us No. We can spend 20 to 25m on new players and costs without losing any money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 So we made a 52m loss based on the new deal? Now I can see why no one would want to buy us No. According to Faulkner we're now breaking even, but this years figures don't be out to next year and they won't include the new TV money which is only paid this summer. It'll be 2016 I think before we see those books 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villatillidie1980 Posted June 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2014 To be fair Isa, I hadn't seen that. But surely even that says more about our future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Yeah you reject a job as manager because of lack of money so you take a job as an assistant manager at a club with no money, Makes sense 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Sorry, I accidentally stumbled into the FFP thread. Can someone direct me to the takeover thread? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 It came up in takeover conversation as does many things that people speculate on such as Keane over the last couple of days. It's actually quite important to understand restrictions on the current and any future owner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 To be fair Isa, I hadn't seen that. But surely even that says more about our future? I really don't know to be honest. Don't take that as gospel though, I was just putting it out there as their take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 As I recall, a substantial part of the loss was depreciation of assets, most notably players. I would very seriously doubt the actual cash loss was that high, especially considering the lower wage bill. We actually added ~3 mil to our revenue and dropped ~6 mil in operational costs. I would imagine the cash loss was closer to 30 mil than 52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 So we made a 52m loss based on the new deal? Now I can see why no one would want to buy us No. According to Faulkner we're now breaking even, but this years figures don't be out to next year and they won't include the new TV money which is only paid this summer. It'll be 2016 I think before we see those books Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 So we made a 52m loss based on the new deal? Now I can see why no one would want to buy us No. According to Faulkner we're now breaking even, but this years figures don't be out to next year and they won't include the new TV money which is only paid this summer. It'll be 2016 I think before we see those books Right okay the previous post confused me then. So a new owner could increase attendance and sponsor stadium and easily add £10m turnover for us to increase wages with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suttonpaul Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 So we made a 52m loss based on the new deal? Now I can see why no one would want to buy usNo. According to Faulkner we're now breaking even, but this years figures don't be out to next year and they won't include the new TV money which is only paid this summer. It'll be 2016 I think before we see those books Right okay the previous post confused me then. So a new owner could increase attendance and sponsor stadium and easily add £10m turnover for us to increase wages with. Yes but so could the current owner. Also investment in the ground or training ground is allowed by FFP without it affecting figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Current owner doesn't want to though that's the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I thought there maybe something in the Keane appointment regarding a takeover but after reading all the FFP rules I'm starting to think the worst again. It really is such a farce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 To be fair Isa, I hadn't seen that. But surely even that says more about our future?I think he was told that taking the Celtic job would mean leaving the Ireland set-up, however, as our number two he can also remain as Ireland number two. If that's true, then (keeping it on topic, as was my intention!) that has no baring on how close or far away a takeover is. It's just that Villa is more suitable for his situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeps Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I find it hard to believe that Roy would come to villa without having an idea of what is exactly going on. Everyone is in limbo he would not put himself in that situation. I think the takeover is closer than the press think (they know sweet FA IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smetrov Posted June 4, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2014 I find it hard to believe that Roy would come to villa without having an idea of what is exactly going on. Everyone is in limbo he would not put himself in that situation. I think the takeover is closer than the press think (they know sweet FA IMO) I think your over analysing - which we have all done since the sale rumours first surfaced - "He said X - but really he mean't XYZ" I think Lambert has asked Roy Keane to be his number 2 - Keane doesn't have to give up his employ with Ireland - So if a takeover gets completed and Keane and Lambo get sacked in September - Keane is no worse off than he is now. I don't think there is anything more to it than that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwpzxjor1 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I can't imagine him coming here for the money. His itv pundit work must have been fairly lucrative for much easier work. And he's risking not getting that job back again afterwards. I can't see us offering him a salary big enough to offset what he'd lose in Brazil, and the risk that we might get bought soon and he'll be gone again. Then again, he hasn't accepted the job yet.. That, to me, points towards a deal being in the pipeline and the new owners indicating that lambert and Keane would be their preferred choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I can't imagine him coming here for the money. His itv pundit work must have been fairly lucrative for much easier work. And he's risking not getting that job back again afterwards. I can't see us offering him a salary big enough to offset what he'd lose in Brazil, and the risk that we might get bought soon and he'll be gone again. Then again, he hasn't accepted the job yet..That, to me, points towards a deal being in the pipeline and the new owners indicating that lambert and Keane would be their preferred choice. I'm a Lambert fan but if you're right in saying that then I worry about our prospective new owner(s)!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I wouldn't, Lambert deserves a third season at the very least! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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