Qwpzxjor1 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I had an optimistic feeling we might just be able to sneak a point against Chelsea. Then I remembered Bertrand is on loan and we'll probably have Bennett at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I had an optimistic feeling we might just be able to sneak a point against Chelsea. Then I remembered Bertrand is on loan and we'll probably have Bennett at left back. Is that the rules nowadays regarding loans - or is it something that Chelsea themselves have stipulated? Seem to remember Fernando Morientes scored a couple of goals to knock Real Madrid out of the CL a few years back when he was was on loan from them at Monaco. Doubt Chelsea will have made a similar faux pas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SikhInTrinity Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 It's PL rules, he can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Derryvillan Posted March 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2014 It's PL rules, he can't play. Lambert gets the blame for everything. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2014 I had an optimistic feeling we might just be able to sneak a point against Chelsea. Then I remembered Bertrand is on loan and we'll probably have Bennett at left back. Is that the rules nowadays regarding loans - or is it something that Chelsea themselves have stipulated? Seem to remember Fernando Morientes scored a couple of goals to knock Real Madrid out of the CL a few years back when he was was on loan from them at Monaco. Doubt Chelsea will have made a similar faux pas... Yeah it's the rules. Only recently though. I'm sure it never used to be the rules. When United first loaned out Tim Howard I'm sure he didn't play against United and it was described as a "gentleman's agreement" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 3, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Been saying for a while, a back 4 next year of Bertrand - Vlaar - Okore -Dani Alves would be pretty damn good. (The Dani Alves thing is a joke. What I really mean is a new RB. As well as Bacuna is doing, he's not a RB and I'd rather someone else there) Big IFs in there though. IF we hold onto Bertrand. IF Okore fulfils his potential. IF we sign a decent RB. Edited March 3, 2014 by Stevo985 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzep Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Anyone know how long is left on his Chelsea contract? With azpilecuta (sp) seeming to have stepped up a level and Coles future unclear hopefully Bertrand fancies being our first choice next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Anyone know how long is left on his Chelsea contract? With azpilecuta (sp) seeming to have stepped up a level and Coles future unclear hopefully Bertrand fancies being our first choice next year 2017. 3 years.. Chelsea won't sell cheap even if they have too many players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomzep Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Anyone know how long is left on his Chelsea contract? With azpilecuta (sp) seeming to have stepped up a level and Coles future unclear hopefully Bertrand fancies being our first choice next year 2017. 3 years.. Chelsea won't sell cheap even if they have too many players. That's disappointing to hear. I'd imagine he may be willing to move on for guaranteed football but it may not be with us then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 We have began working on a permanent deal according to The Mirror, yippee! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwan Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Great news. Bacuna Vlaar Okore Bertrand isn't bad at all. Just need to get a midfield and some better attacking players and we might have a team there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 For those who want to get technical, the actual line they use is that we have began looking into the possibility of making it permanent. My guess is that we would have to get him happy with a contract before then negotiating with Chelsea over whatever future fee situation that was stipulated in the loan deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 This is the only draw-back for me when a club in our position takes a player like this on loan - we'll end up using a 1/4 or 1/3 of our summer transfer budget to buy a player that won't actually make our team any better than the one that finishes the season. That said, I would still be delighted to get him permanently. You can see he's not good enough to play regularly for Chelsea, but he's more than good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Will Lerner pay Chelsea what they want for Bertrand, that's the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Will Lerner pay Chelsea what they want for Bertrand, that's the question I assume Lerner will give Lambert a budget and it's up to him as to whether he's worth the money. I don't think Mourinho will hold us to ransom if Bertrand wants to leave, probably £4m or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Well I hope there's a change of direction in the summer were we bring in 3 or 4 players rather that 7-8. Apparently Bertrand is available for around £6 million which would be ok for me, then I would like to see 2 midfielders 1 more attacking one more defensive...I think this can be done for about £25 million which isn't exorbitant with the new premier league money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Anything between 6-7m sounds about right. I'd pay that without question, he's comfortably better than what we have in that position it's fair to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Is he definitely not allowed to play on Saturday? He is listed as available on Fantasy Premier League and they normally have it down if a player is ineligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_of_Pongo_Waring Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Is he definitely not allowed to play on Saturday? He is listed as available on Fantasy Premier League and they normally have it down if a player is ineligible. Loan players are definitely unable to play against their parent club. It goes back to a Newcastle player a few years ago who scored against the toon and celebrated enthusiastically. There was a worry about how he'd be treated when his loan finished and he went back. The changes were made the next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Aye it's the rules, Jenas couldn't play v Spurs a few years back as a recent example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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