drat01 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Maybe the qatari's are back. Sudafed cleared up mine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 to compete for Europa League football, a new owner will need to bang in £80m of their own money each season to get us into shape That seems a lot. Everton don't pump that amount in each year and spurs don't even do that do they? We aren't in their position and to get there we'd need to spend. To stay there we'd still need to spend - getting into the Europa league means being better than Everton. So this narrows it down more: £80m per season isn't allowed under the FFP rules. You'd need an owner 1) willing to invest that much 2) willing to brazenly break the rules and not care about the risk of being punished 3) with the ability to create huge sponsorship deals with various companies (who are probably ultimately connected to the owner himself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 If this rumour spreads then it will be interesting to see if there is any comment from the club but it would explain a lot and would substantiate the thoughts and opinion of one or two on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Here's the Forbes richest list: http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/ just get the phone out Randy and make some calls Carlos Slim already owns a club in Mexico, im sure he'd love to visit sunny Birmingham on weekends I hear Bill Gates is trying to give half his net worth to charity. S.O.S, Bill! Edited December 27, 2013 by Daniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Who's Howard Hodgson ? Hairy Hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) to compete for Europa League football, a new owner will need to bang in £80m of their own money each season to get us into shapeThat seems a lot. Everton don't pump that amount in each year and spurs don't even do that do they?We aren't in their position and to get there we'd need to spend. To stay there we'd still need to spend - getting into the Europa league means being better than Everton.So this narrows it down more: £80m per season isn't allowed under the FFP rules. You'd need an owner 1) willing to invest that much 2) willing to brazenly break the rules and not care about the risk of being punished 3) with the ability to create huge sponsorship deals with various companies (who are probably ultimately connected to the owner himself). At the moment we need an owner who isn't going to see us worrying about relegation each year. You don't need stupid money for that. We have a top half income so should be able to get there. Hopefully a smarter owner than Lerner may be able to help move us up from there. We shouldn't accept Lerner because of what we need to challenge the big clubs again. Edited December 27, 2013 by Big_John_10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I dare say all PL clubs have shot up in value in recent years due to massive TV deals etc. Considering we are a firmly established team inn a large metropolitan area, I wouldn't be surprised if we sold for quite a bit. I've always said he'd do alright when he sells but £250 million seems a lot when you think about how much he bought us for. But then didn't Carson Yeung have to pay £80 million for SHA five years ago!? We're five years down the line; we're a bigger club who's in the PL, and we've got multi million pound income streams including the huge TV deal. True. Hopefully if we're worth that then there's someone out there willing to pay it. IMO if he wants out he should be prepared to take a loss and not gamble our long term future so he ends up financially OK. To be honest if Randy wants to sell and we're relegated he'll be the one with most to lose, I can't see him being able to sell if we drop to the Championship. It would drop our value and we'd loose a load of sky money and they'd be no guarantee we would come straight back up. Guess he's hoping that he can get away with spending little and staying up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaForever1970 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 In black and white? Where? Or course a new owner will instantly be better than Lerner I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO. Isn't it arguably that he's making the club more attractive to buyers by balancing the books and making us FFP compliant than merely 'not wanting to lose out'? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO. Isn't it arguably that he's making the club more attractive to buyers by balancing the books and making us FFP compliant than merely 'not wanting to lose out'? If he wanted to make us more attractive he could sell for a price that would do that. Do you think he'd be willing to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradarmstrong_ Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO. Isn't it arguably that he's making the club more attractive to buyers by balancing the books and making us FFP compliant than merely 'not wanting to lose out'? That seems like the nicer option, but Lerner has proven himself to have no respect for the fans so I can't see it being true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Destroys the myth that the last few years was all so we could sort things out in order to invest and try again. yes its kinda interesting to see it all unfold....like i said in an earlier post the club is one great big " Hidden Agenda" The name should be Aston ( da vinci code) Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Any new owner needs to have a sporting background, or an infinite amount of money I can't see us selling any time soon, though. I'm suspicious of the timing of this 'news' tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO. ....easy tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I dont see why anyone would pay 100m for this club right now let alone 250m. Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 How do we know Hairy Hands aka HH is not Howard Hodgson aka HH ??? If both have said it Hairy Hands on here and Hodgson on Twitter... Surely it's the same guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 My other thought on the strategy of balancing the books is so that he could then remortgage the club, take all his money back and rack all the debt against the club a la the Glazier model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) The gambling with our future so that he doesn't lose out makes him worse than Doug IMO.Isn't it arguably that he's making the club more attractive to buyers by balancing the books and making us FFP compliant than merely 'not wanting to lose out'?If he wanted to make us more attractive he could sell for a price that would do that. Do you think he'd be willing to do that? Maybe he's willing to do that!? The £250M quoted is just speculation. If the club is FFP compliant and no longer running at a loss then that makes us more attractive to buyers. Who knows what the asking price is. Time will tell. Edited December 27, 2013 by Morley_crosses_to_Withe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted December 27, 2013 Moderator Share Posted December 27, 2013 If he IS looking to sell the club and wants to save money in order to claw it back for himself you can kiss goodbye to any ideas of Lambert getting the heave-ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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