deeps Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Still in it for me till we get a couple wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_ Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Can't see us getting relegated this season, even after todays woeful performance! We still have some of the top teams to play.... and they are the only teams we seem to be able to get points against, therefore we should stay up haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Sunderland still have to play Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Everton and Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 We just need one more win....HOPEFULLY that will come v Fulham. 37 points and that will be safety for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Lets hope Arsenal and LIverpool do us a favour in midweek against Swansea and Sunderland Hull play West Ham too, I suppose an Hull win would be best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 So long as Fulham, Cardiff and Sunderland keep losing/drawing we're fine.. would be nice to get another couple of wins asap though so we could all focus on things other than relegation for a change. looking at it to catch us with us getting 0 points from our remaining 8 fixtures: Fulham need to win 3 & draw 2 of their remaining 7 fixtures Cardiff need to win 3 & draw 1 of their remaining 7 fixtures Sunderland need to win 3 & draw 1 of their remaining 10 fixtures then you have Palace & West Brom who both have 8 games remaining and are 6 points behind us though West Brom's Goal difference is similar to ours . So really we need to hope that in all the head to heads between the "at risk" teams it's those bottom 4 or 5 who are the ones who keep losing. Another way to look at it is we need Another 6 defeats from 10 for Sunderland Another 4 defeats from 7 for Cardiff Another 3 defeats from 7 for Fulham But every time we gain points that requirement increases for each of those teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Still in it for me till we get a couple wins Firstly, we will certainly win two more games before the end of the season. I think we will beat 3 of Fulham, Palace, Southampton, Hull and Spurs and finish on above 40 points. Secondly, I don't think we will even need 40 points to stay up this year. I think 37 will suffice and there is not a snowball in hells chance that we won't get to that. We will not be going down this year. Absolutely no chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 not that I think we are in trouble but we need 4 points to stay up. don't see Sunderland getting 13 points even with their games in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well according to MOTD and Sky - they say Stoke are safe and they have 37 points - so if they are safe (and only 3 points ahead of us) then why all of a sudden do we need 40 points. 40 may be the safety mark (the so called 'magic' points total) but if Stoke are why aren't we with three more points. I think 1 more win will do - 2 would be ideal (magic 40 pts). We'll get the points from our last 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 We would have to lose all remaining games to go down. I think 36 points is enough but it will be horrific to experience a run in with 2 draws from 8 games when we still have Hull and Fulham at home as well as Palace and Swansea away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well according to MOTD and Sky - they say Stoke are safe and they have 37 points - so if they are safe (and only 3 points ahead of us) then why all of a sudden do we need 40 points. 40 may be the safety mark (the so called 'magic' points total) but if Stoke are why aren't we with three more points. I think 1 more win will do - 2 would be ideal (magic 40 pts). We'll get the points from our last 8 games. If Sky or MOTD told me it was raining, I'd go outside to check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Theres no magic total anyway, people have gone down on 40 r more before, its fair to say we could still go down technically but it would take the most disastrous 8 game run for us to do so. Saying that i wouldnt put it past us to lose at home to fulham just to make things very uncomfortable for ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Well according to MOTD and Sky - they say Stoke are safe and they have 37 points - so if they are safe (and only 3 points ahead of us) then why all of a sudden do we need 40 points. 40 may be the safety mark (the so called 'magic' points total) but if Stoke are why aren't we with three more points. I think 1 more win will do - 2 would be ideal (magic 40 pts). We'll get the points from our last 8 games. If Sky or MOTD told me it was raining, I'd go outside to check. http://weather-news.sky.com/weather/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Sunderland still have to play Liverpool, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City, Everton and Spurs Wish that was our run in. Bags of points there for us! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 It's been safe for a while to assume for a while that 36/7 points will ensure safety. We're nearly there - I really thought we would get there yesterday but, hey ho. More important for me is whether we can do better than last season, and by how much. So that's 41 points to beat. In my book, if we don't do markedly better than that, the season will have been a failure, though it's fairly sure we won't get relegated so I suppose there is some comfort in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 More important for me is whether we can do better than last season, and by how much. So that's 41 points to beat. In my book, if we don't do markedly better than that, the season will have been a failure, I see us finishing with in 3 points of last season so no worse than 38 and no better than 44. Either way I think we have simply stood still this season which is very disappointing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 More important for me is whether we can do better than last season, and by how much. So that's 41 points to beat. In my book, if we don't do markedly better than that, the season will have been a failure, I see us finishing with in 3 points of last season so no worse than 38 and no better than 44. Either way I think we have simply stood still this season which is very disappointing. Only if you look at points totals, which is a bit of a meaningless stat on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 More important for me is whether we can do better than last season, and by how much. So that's 41 points to beat. In my book, if we don't do markedly better than that, the season will have been a failure, I see us finishing with in 3 points of last season so no worse than 38 and no better than 44. Either way I think we have simply stood still this season which is very disappointing. Only if you look at points totals, which is a bit of a meaningless stat on its own.I think it's a bit odd to describe it as "meaningless". It's largely a straight comparison with how we have done in previous seasons. If we get fewer points this time, we will not have done as well. All the clever wordplay in the world won't get away from that simple truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 Plus, given what a dreadful season we had in 2012/3, it would be astoundingly bad to do the same or just a bit worse/better in 13/14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 More important for me is whether we can do better than last season, and by how much. So that's 41 points to beat. In my book, if we don't do markedly better than that, the season will have been a failure, I see us finishing with in 3 points of last season so no worse than 38 and no better than 44. Either way I think we have simply stood still this season which is very disappointing. Only if you look at points totals, which is a bit of a meaningless stat on its own. I think it's a bit odd to describe it as "meaningless". It's largely a straight comparison with how we have done in previous seasons. If we get fewer points this time, we will not have done as well. All the clever wordplay in the world won't get away from that simple truth. I said "on its own" and it is meaningless on its own. Points totals don't mean anything without also knowing positions. If we get the same amount of points as last year but finish say, 11th instead of 15th then I fail to see how that's not progress, despite the same points total. At the end of the day the league is about position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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