Demitri_C Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 The next world cup canada usa Mexico are we looking at 2am ko games does anyone know for us in the uk? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) Apparently they are including press and all sorts of other things in to attendance figures. Either way, Argentina Mexico was definitely packed. I'll repeat again, if anyone thinks they are thick enough to not realise capacities and attendance figures are public and can be scrutinised... I don't know what to say. Not sure about the others, but I've been told the ACTUAL capacity of Lusail Stadium is circa 89,000 EDIT: http://stadiumdb.com/news/2022/11/qatar_2022_whats_wrong_with_the_stadium_attendance " How did this happen? The answer is very simple. As we know, the big football organisations at the tournaments they organise used to reduce the actual capacity of the arenas due to their restrictive approach to security. This is why the official figures published prior to the World Cup in Qatar indicated a lower number of available seats in the stadiums. BBC journalist Rachel Burden reported on her Twitter account that she had been contacted by a FIFA spokesperson and informed that the figures quoted by the organisers were reference capacities that met FIFA's requirements. The final capacity at the event itself is higher and discrepancies arise from this. Additionally, FIFA counts 'tickets sold' and not the fans who actually enter the stadium. The organisation also tweeted a graphic showing the actual capacities of Qatari arenas. " Edited November 27, 2022 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted November 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2022 Are they counting resold tickets? Mine had at least 3 owners - the person I bought it from, me, and the person I sold it to. Attendance could hit 200,000! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Apparently they are including press and all sorts of other things in to attendance figures. Either way, Argentina Mexico was definitely packed. I'll repeat again, if anyone thinks they are thick enough to not realise capacities and attendance figures are public and can be scrutinised... I don't know what to say. I'm sure they know. I'm also sure they know that most people will not bother to find out that they cooked the numbers once they look at them in the history books 10 years from now. It will say 89,000 people when the real figure might have been something like 72,000. FIFA will write their own history and most will just shrug their shoulders about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, fightoffyour said: Are they counting resold tickets? Mine had at least 3 owners - the person I bought it from, me, and the person I sold it to. Attendance could hit 200,000! 4 minutes ago, sne said: I'm sure they know. I'm also sure they know that most people will not bother to find out that they cooked the numbers once they look at them in the history books 10 years from now. It will say 89,000 people when the real figure might have been something like 72,000. FIFA will write their own history and most will just shrug their shoulders about it. I agree with you both that the numbers should just be the actual numbers. Just going off the eye test and videos + reports I've seen from people though, there have defo been some sold out/packed to capacity matches. Obvious ones being Saudis ( As they just drive over the border ) and the South Americans are an incredibly loyal bunch who turn up in droves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The next world cup canada usa Mexico are we looking at 2am ko games does anyone know for us in the uk? The late games will probably kick off at either 8 or 9pm EST. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Marka Ragnos Posted November 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: The next world cup canada usa Mexico are we looking at 2am ko games does anyone know for us in the uk? It's a very good question, @Demitri_C, but I think you'd almost have to dig into bids to find out for sure. If there are KO matches in Seattle, they'd have to begin at 6 pm local time for 2 am GMT, and I don't see that happening. You could be looking at 3 AM even for say a 7 pm local time start. I mean, they are going to want to fill the stadiums, too, so that could influence local kick offs. Edited November 27, 2022 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 Who's paying Lothar to be there? Seen him a few times suited and booted in the posh seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Who's paying Lothar to be there? Seen him a few times suited and booted in the posh seats Looks like it might be FIFA or Qatar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Nicholas Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted November 27, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Rustibrooks said: I know he's trying to make a statement of some kind about the German protest, but it isn't very good, because I have no idea what he's trying to say. Is he for the German protest? against it? Does he have a beef with Ozil? I am none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rustibrooks Posted November 27, 2022 Share Posted November 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, HKP90 said: I know he's trying to make a statement of some kind about the German protest, but it isn't very good, because I have no idea what he's trying to say. Is he for the German protest? against it? Does he have a beef with Ozil? I am none the wiser. I think it’s in support of Ozil, I’m sure after he mentioned that he’ll receive racist abuse when he would play bad for them. Also (not 100 percent about this for sure) he got expelled from the team after bringing awareness of the genocide to Uyghurs in China too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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blandy Posted November 28, 2022 Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2022 15 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: If those aren't your values, if you place anything above global commercialisation and the corporate superstructure, then no, you shouldn't be eligible to hold a world cup. There’s things in your whole post which are valid, but somehow I don’t completely share the outlook. Because underneath all the politics and noise, people all over the globe really love football. So I start from that standpoint. Which means that football should roam around the planet every 4 years. You’re of course right that FIFA is a grotesque, corrupt, money chasing, immoral ogre of an organisation and the process by which tournaments are awarded is, just, crooked. It’s also true that no nation has a right to determine how another one is run, IMO. In between nations, sits FIFA. Should it determine how nations are run? Bearing in mind how corrupt it is itself? Hell no. The awarding to Russia and Qatar in 2010 was the nadir of that corruption. The process has now changed as pretty much all the delegates have since been found criminally corrupt. The sty has not been cleaned, so much as we’d like, but it’s less smelly, but still massively hypocritical. I think all I’m saying really is that the joy football brings should be shared around the whole world, not confined to either western approved places or moneyed oil states, and start with that principle above all. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, sne said: Russian troll farming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 10 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: It's a very good question, @Demitri_C, but I think you'd almost have to dig into bids to find out for sure. If there are KO matches in Seattle, they'd have to begin at 6 pm local time for 2 am GMT, and I don't see that happening. You could be looking at 3 AM even for say a 7 pm local time start. I mean, they are going to want to fill the stadiums, too, so that could influence local kick offs. Gosh if its 3am or 4am games ill be recording them no way am waking up those times! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted November 28, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted November 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Gosh if its 3am or 4am games ill be recording them no way am waking up those times! Wuss! That's standard fodder watching the Villa from down here. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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