bannedfromHandV Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I've long thought that people should have an online identity that's used across all sites. There are security issues with that but then you recruit and pay for the best internet experts out there to combat it. There would have to be exceptions obviously, porn sites namely because you have to entitle people to their harmless depravities but I wouldnt have in issue with having a single inline persona for your everyday sites, retail, forums, info & govt sites etc Edited January 22, 2014 by bannedfromHandV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 I've long thought that people should have an online identity that's used across all sites. There are security issues with that but then you recruit and pay for the best internet experts out there to combat it. There would have to be exceptions obviously, porn sites namely because you have to entitle people to their harmless depravities but I wouldnt have in issue with having a single inline persona for your everyday sites, retail, forums, info & govt sites etc I'd imagine that is the long term goal of Google, Facebook, Microsoft etc. You can already use your respective login from each of these companies to access an array of external sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 He's having a meltdown on Twitter about the Ulrika incident, saying he's finally getting the truth out and taking it to court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It is because The Sun are putting it front page, yep, covering that instead of racism and death threats. I feel sorry for him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted January 23, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 23, 2014 Good on him, the majority of these people wouldn't dare say such things if they weren't behind the internet, they're given a safeguard to release their inner racist/weirdo. It shouldn't be a safeguard, action should be taken. That's the thing with free speech. You have the right to say what you want - but you can expect to lose your friends/job/health/freedom when people hear things they don't like or that is really offensive. And I have no problem with that. This is not people extressing an opinion, entering in to a debate or 'freedom of speech'. The are sending death threats and directing racist abuse at him. Both are illegal. Are they unable to say something racist? No. That is freedom of speech. Is it illegal to say something racist? Yes. That is consequences. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It is because The Sun are putting it front page, yep, covering that instead of racism and death threats. I feel sorry for him. Yeah me too, almost saying it is perfectly fine that he gets abused because of whatever happened with Ulrika and him 15 years back (which I don't agree with at all but that was a long time ago and was clearly a personal feud between them both). Not just condoning racism and hatred but actually giving a reason as to why Stan shouldn't have a problem with it. This world is so backwards, two wrongs don't make a right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 He's deleted his twitter account now. Went on a bit of a rant about the article in the sun today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Shame really, I like his footballing debates and such but it is probably for the best. Almost makes it seem as if the abusers have won though (and The Sun of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Oh alright then. Hey kids, speak your mind, but if you get racially abused for it, well tough shit. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frobisher Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Sun know their audience well. Attacking him personally allows them to side—step the issue at hand yet still report on it without alienating the large proportion of cretins that make up their readership. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daveburnside Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2014 "A 14 year old from Liverpool has been spoken to by detectives investigating abusive tweets sent to Stan Collymore" Pretty much sums up twitter for me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Oh alright then. Hey kids, speak your mind, but if you get racially abused for it, well tough shit. I'll probably make a longer post later when I'm not at work or on my phone but you are missing the point completely. I'm not saying it's okay to be racist, I'm in a mixed race relationship and a father to mixed race children. I'm not looking forwards to the day when my kids come home from school and tell me someone has called them a paki. **edit** The thing is Collymore doesn't help himself. He courts controversy when it suits him and complains bitterly when it goes to far. His employer (TalkSport) have built an entire business around saying things to wind people up to encourage them to phone a premium rate number or text in at 50p a pop. A large part of Collymore's audience, certainly the younger ones who wont remember him as a player will have that mentality when engaging him via any medium. Why is it okay to engage with an easily wound up section of society when you are making money out of them via text fees, phone fees or advertising revenue but not okay when it it's on Twitter and you can't monetise it? Stan can't have his cake and eat it here, he uses Twitter to promote his brand and his brand is being a somewhat outspoken pundit. Robbie Savage does the same at the BBC and he seems to appreciate that the abuse he gets is part of the game, it's the cost of doing business. Stan should know that. It's not ideal, but it's the reality we live in. Again, I am not saying it's okay to be racist. I agree completely that there is a problem with people being arseholes on the internet and hiding behind anonymity. I just disagree massively that the solution is to tear everything down in case people who are sensitive get offended. I disagree massively that an American company should hold British values when it comes to free speech. I think the first amendment of the US constitution is a truly wonderful bit of legislation and I really wish we had it here. I also agree with the US Supreme Court's interpretation of where free speech goes too far ("clear and present danger") which isn't something that happened to Collymore this week. He knows where the off button is, nobody is forcing him to use Twitter and if he does feel he needs to use it to promote his brand as a media personality then maybe getting a job with a company who aren't basically a bunch of professional trolls might help hisi cause somewhat. Edited January 23, 2014 by The_Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Haha, his absense from twitter was all of about 2 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Daveburnside Posted January 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've long thought that people should have an online identity that's used across all sites. There are security issues with that but then you recruit and pay for the best internet experts out there to combat it. There would have to be exceptions obviously, porn sites namely because you have to entitle people to their harmless depravities but I wouldnt have in issue with having a single inline persona for your everyday sites, retail, forums, info & govt sites etc No. This is wrong. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yep, that is the worst thing that could possibly happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hes a WUM who wants to draw attention to himself. **** him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lions_Roar Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hes a WUM who wants to draw attention to himself. **** him. A wum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electric Avenue Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Sun trying to make amends with the city of Liverpool? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Oh alright then. Hey kids, speak your mind, but if you get racially abused for it, well tough shit. "Why does being good at something, whether sport or music or anything, disentitle you to be treated like everyone else? Other people say, 'if you don't like it, you should leave'. Surely we should be saying, 'if the abuser is abusing the system, they should leave'.” Brian Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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