djdabush Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 United have always over-performed over the past 27 years, and it's been down to Fergie. They've won the Champions league with players like Wes Brown, Owen Hargreaves, Jesper Blomvqist and Andy Cole, players with no right to even be in the competition, let alone winning it. On paper, they're marginally better than Arsenal, and nowhere near the standards of Man City or Chelsea. Moyes is going to have to seriously over-achieve if United are to retain their league crown. Agree with that. Although Hargreaves doesn't deserve to be in that group of players IMO. Or Andy Cole. Although David May most certainly does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 So does John O Shea. I wouldn't of even wanted him in the Villa team. Average player carried for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 In fact that would be an interesting thread actually, those players who have been carried throughout their whole career. Chelsea's Ferreira would be top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 No. But he has been consistent with Everton Yeah but you can say Gregory was consistent with us. I mean he got us to a FA Cup Final as well- though it wasnt worth the effort mind you. It didn't mean that he deserved a big job. In fact he went to Derby I think. Be interesting to see what happens this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 1, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted August 1, 2013 Papillon has nailed it. United have had a huge weakness in central midfield for years but have always masked that through the genius of Ferguson. Milner was hand made for em, still is IMO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandaq Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 1-1 vs Aik Looking proper shit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I expect them to put 4 or 5 past Wigan on Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think Everton will suffer far more from the loss of Moyes than Man U will for having him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 7, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2013 I think Everton will suffer far more from the loss of Moyes than Man U will for having him.Perhaps, but it's all relative. For United to drop 1 or 2 places is a disaster as they're used to winning stuff. Whereas Everton go from 'not winning stuff' to 'not winning stuff'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 (edited) I think Everton will suffer far more from the loss of Moyes than Man U will for having him. Perhaps, but it's all relative. For United to drop 1 or 2 places is a disaster as they're used to winning stuff. Whereas Everton go from 'not winning stuff' to relegation under Martinez. fixed for you Edited August 7, 2013 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted August 7, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted August 7, 2013 I can't see it being that drastic and I sincerely hope it isn't that drastic for them. I see them becoming midtable over time. This season I'd still have them just below the elite as has been their place for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 yeah i dont think it would happen over night but I think that Martinez tries change style to quick it could end up a bit like Houllier in his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 just been looking at RedCafe to see what they're saying about Fellani and guess who randomly pops up?.....GlastonSpur. Who's byline under his name is "Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nicky Butt's a good example of an average player made to look good at Man. United ever through good management or the quality that surrounded them. Was a regular in the SHA and Newcastle teams that were relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Nicky Butt's a good example of an average player made to look good at Man. United ever through good management or the quality that surrounded them. Was a regular in the SHA and Newcastle teams that were relegated. was also Pele choice for best player of 2002 World Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 As good a player as Pele was, he chats out of his arse. Nicky Butt was not the best player at the 2002 world cup. That accolade goes to either Ronaldo, Rivaldo or Oliver Kahn who saved Germany in all their knock out games. Does he seriously think Butt was better then Ronaldo in that world cup? If he had said best England player at that world cup, then maybe that would of made more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 just been looking at RedCafe to see what they're saying about Fellani and guess who randomly pops up?.....GlastonSpur. Who's byline under his name is "Also disliked on an Aston Villa forum." I knew he hung out over there (he sees Man U as Spurs rivals now ) but I didn't realise he had that tagline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Got a email from the FA in which you can buy tickets in the Manure end this Sunday. Thought it was a suprise it going to general sale as it is bascially a home game for the 'red devils' supporters? Boom-Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Haven't Wigan only sold 5k tickets for that? The community shield is a waste of time really apart from obviously the charity bit. They could play that game abroad and I doubt too many people would kick up a fuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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