VillaChris Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Be interested the comings and goings in the summer. Bissouma is one of those flatter to deceive players I think. Was decent up to xmas but when it came to the crunch part of the season he went completely AWOL in the big games. Talk they'll flog Richarlison to a Saudi team. I also wonder about Son. 32 in July and just 5 goals since he came back from the Asia Cup but Spurs make so much money from his profile in Asia and fans coming over to watch him you get the feeling Levy won't want to sell him. No good Ange giving it the big one on change of mentality if all they sell in the summer is Sessegnon, Bryan Gil and Ben Davies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Totally disagree with you. Who knows what would have happen if they had different owner? They might have ended up like us, relegated, or Everton, on the brink of administration. Ifs and buts but think Doug Ellis won more trophies as chairman than Levy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 Just now, Zatman said: Why not? They had a chance at top 4 and fans bailed on them Loyalty goes both ways Because it’s a PR disaster. his feelings should of stayed within the club. Not open to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 6 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Because it’s a PR disaster. his feelings should of stayed within the club. Not open to the public. If for some bizarre reason we were in same position I would back Unai up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: If for some bizarre reason we were in same position I would back Unai up I would too, but tbf Unai is an absolute gent. He wouldn’t lash out in the same way. He’d probably expresse disappointment, rather than anger like ange did Edited May 15 by CarryOnVilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 19 minutes ago, Zatman said: Not true is it though, both Mourinho and Conte have better win records than Postecoglu. Spurs have pretty much scored a similar amount of goals in last 5 seasons so not sure the entertainment except have conceded more Again, win records for such short spells are quite meaningless. It's like comparing Bruce in the Championship to Deano. On paper the numbers are similar but to anyone with eyes they're miles apart. You could tolerate that kind of football if you're winning something (or in our case getting promoted), but if you're not it quickly becomes untenable with the fans, and rightly so imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Again, win records for such short spells are quite meaningless. It's like comparing Bruce in the Championship to Deano. On paper the numbers are similar but to anyone with eyes they're miles apart. You could tolerate that kind of football if you're winning something (or in our case getting promoted), but if you're not it quickly becomes untenable with the fans, and rightly so imo. All were in Premier League and both managed more games than Postecoglu. Both are way more successful Spurs managers as well than Ange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 We got 12 points from these corresponding fixtures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Why not? They had a chance at top 4 and fans bailed on them Loyalty goes both ways They didn't have a *very* good chance of 4th though did they? They were playing Man City, had to win, and even if they did they wouldn't get 4th if we could get a draw at Palace. Not surprising some fans didn't see that sequence of events as worth gifting Arsenal a title for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 1 hour ago, Zatman said: All were in Premier League and both managed more games than Postecoglu. Both are way more successful Spurs managers as well than Ange "Way more successful" None of them won anything, your favourite metric. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: They didn't have a *very* good chance of 4th though did they? They were playing Man City, had to win, and even if they did they wouldn't get 4th if we could get a draw at Palace. Not surprising some fans didn't see that sequence of events as worth gifting Arsenal a title for. If you believe some Villa fans, Crystal Palace would have wiped the floor with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: "Way more successful" None of them won anything, your favourite metric. While that is true but one got sacked after getting to a cup final and another was sacked after having a rightful pop at the clubs ambition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 8 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: They didn't have a *very* good chance of 4th though did they? They were playing Man City, had to win, and even if they did they wouldn't get 4th if we could get a draw at Palace. Not surprising some fans didn't see that sequence of events as worth gifting Arsenal a title for. From when they beat us, it was in their hands for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC_Hitz Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 They could technically get pipped to 5th place by Chelsea. Coming 3rd in a two horse race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 17 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: From when they beat us, it was in their hands for sure. For sure. But it wasn't in their hands when they played Man City, and as I've said before, the fault for them drifting out of contention belongs to the manager and the players, not the fans. The fans didn't make them lose 5 from 6. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 24 minutes ago, AVFC_Hitz said: They could technically get pipped to 5th place by Chelsea. Coming 3rd in a two horse race. Luckily for them they are playing one of the worst teams in Premier League history. A team albeit who somehow got a point at VP despite shipping over 100 goals this season. (How I'll never know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Zatman said: While that is true but one got sacked after getting to a cup final and another was sacked after having a rightful pop at the clubs ambition Levy sacking Jose a week before the cup final and putting Ryan Mason in charge is one of the stupidest decisions I’ve ever seen (up there with several sha decisions). So desperate for a trophy but Levy’s ego is so big he sacked (and paid off) the best chance they’ve had for decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Luckily for them they are playing one of the worst teams in Premier League history. A team albeit who somehow got a point at VP despite shipping over 100 goals this season. (How I'll never know) Partly because we had a perfectly good goal disallowed Edited May 16 by Wainy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, VillaAlex said: Luckily for them they are playing one of the worst teams in Premier League history. A team albeit who somehow got a point at VP despite shipping over 100 goals this season. (How I'll never know) Probably something to do with the 2 clear penalties we was denied, the most clear handball you'll ever see, and the perfectly good goal disallowed. However, this had absolutely nothing to do with the potential of little old Aston Villa going top of the Premier League at peak international viewing and merchandise sales time. It's a nothing game, Spurs will walk it 4:0, which is good for us; their squad isn;t good enough to run 2 competitions. Edited May 16 by pas5898 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 9 hours ago, Zatman said: While that is true but one got sacked after getting to a cup final and another was sacked after having a rightful pop at the clubs ambition He wasn't sacked right after that, he had a week more of awful results where they got knocked out of 2 cups before he got the sack. They were on a downward spiral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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