CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I don't mind watching American Football. When it is done well, it can be outstanding to see a game plan unfold. There have been a few last minute drives at the Superbowl in recent years that were as good as anything you'll see in any sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 I read that it takes what feels like three years to endure a game of American football and the ball's in play for 11 minutes, on average. Fixed. It's almost as bad as wrestling. I don't know how people can watch that fakery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leviramsey Posted September 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2013 Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly.It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved.*: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2013 Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly.It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved.*: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Long echo there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2013 Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly.It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved.*: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 15, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2013 There would appear to be some AJAX issues... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly. It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved. *: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly. It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved. *: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. Weirdly, American football isn't like rugby or football. It's more like chess, trying to 2nd guess your opponent constantly. It basically stems from rugby union in the 1870s, but with some rule ambiguities* ironed out. From there it evolved. *: basically the laws of rugby at the time mandated a scrum after every tackle, but it was technically illegal to intentionally kick the ball backwards (rugby games of the time were prone to be one continuous scrum moving up and down the field of public school boys kicking each other in the shins... a jolly good sport!). American football was more or less born when it was decided to remedy this by granting a player on the team of the tackled player the right to an uncontested backwards kick to a teammate; by 1900 use of the hands for this was legalized and became the standard method. Twenty years after that, rugby league, seeing the same problem in the rules as the Americans had adopted essentially the same solution (it took the American universities about a year to realize that without contested scrums after tackles, the optimal strategy was to not really try to advance the ball until the end of a half and then score; the rule that eventually became four downs to gain 10 yards was introduced to counteract this... it took rugby league about 70 years to come to that realization). After this, with some controversy (many said that the point of rugby was kicking each other in the shins!), the RFU formalized some of the unwritten rules concerning scrums. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 YCSTA needs to become the new DHUTWU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted September 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2013 There would appear to be some AJAX issues... Nothing to do with me.Wasn't talking about you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 There would appear to be some AJAX issues... Nothing to do with me. Wasn't talking about you... I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2013 Have to agree about the irony of a wrestling fan dissing American football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaajax Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2013 villaajax, on 16 Sept 2013 - 11:35 AM, said: A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on. I guess they are just too lazy to read a script 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on. I know exactly what goes on: Baby oil smothered men in tight pants hugging each other. If I want to watch ghey porn, then I will, but not under the guise of Wrestling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2013 A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on.Whereas that never happens with American Football 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Stopped watching it when I was about 11. It's basically a soap opera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on. Bad hair, wanton destruction of folding furniture and mutual oiling sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Xann, on 16 Sept 2013 - 11:42 AM, said: villaajax, on 16 Sept 2013 - 11:35 AM, said: A lot of ignorant people dismiss wrestling without actually knowing what goes on. Bad hair, wanton destruction of folding furniture and mutual oiling sessions? sounds like Sheffield on a Saturday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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