legov Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The inflated importance of the Battle of Waterloo. Napoleon had lost in Russia and then lost the key battle at Leipzig. Lost at Paris and went into exile. Came back and lost Waterloo. Had he won at Waterloo he still wouldn't have conquered Europe. Had he won in Russia or especially at Leipzig he would really threatened to. It's like saying D Day turned the tide of WW2 not Stalingrad. I hate history inflated to give a positive light on the countries involved. Waterloo in my mind is the worst case of English historians doing this.Yes Yes, but the war was ended there, I guess that's why it's so symbolic. It's more the equivalent of the Russian assault on Berlin (or the atomic bombings of Japan) than the equivalent of Stalingrad. Been watching rick stein in India. Fantastic show considering I normally hate cooking shows. Annoys me that in Birmingham we have no Real Indian restaurants only crappy bangladeshi ones which although okay is nothing like the Indian food I've had when I went to India or the beautiful Indian food on the rick stein show. I've never been to a real indian restaurant in Birmingham and my Sikh friends haven't either. Shame that what people think is true Indian food in the curry houses isn't. By the way India is beautiful Out of interest which part of India did you go to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 There was a piece on the news this morning about the litter problem on beaches during the recent hot weather. Something like 20 tonnes of litter on Brighton beach. People are such tramps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In response to the topic title: Women's Football. It isn't going to take on in this country, so I do wish the BBC would stop trying to push it onto us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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legov Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ugggh look at the number of people on that beach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I don't know what the attraction is with places light Brighton, Blackpool etc. There are plenty of fantastic beaches spread around the UK, but most people tend to congregate around the ones with the most doughnut stalls, which invariably tend to be the sh*ttest ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I'm happy with that as it leaves the nicer beaches emptier and cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In response to the topic title: Women's Football. It isn't going to take on in this country, so I do wish the BBC would stop trying to push it onto us. Not with that attitude, it isn't. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In response to the topic title: Women's Football. It isn't going to take on in this country, so I do wish the BBC would stop trying to push it onto us. Not with that attitude, it isn't. I did specifically refer it back to the topic title I appreciate it's not a particularly cultured view to have, but it doesn't interest me in the slightest, and from my personal experience, this puts me amongst the vast majority of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The champions league is so popular as people want to see the absolute best in the world play each other. Women's sport in general suffers from fact they are so inferior at that professional level to a huge proportion of male athletes that one can never get the same or even close to the same enjoyment from the same sport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 the Benteke thread. Not that he is leaving and was bad enough before that but people now wishing him broken legs and stuff. FFS its only a game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 16, 2013 Moderator Share Posted July 16, 2013 It's just people being angry on a football forum. Their wishing it doesn't make it any more likely to happen. I suppose you're in the right thread in that respect. Someone venting frustration really shouldn't bother you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Washing machine that beeps non stop for like 3 minutes when the washing is done. Whoever thought that people needed to drop what they're doing and run to quickly empty the washing machine needs to die a painful death. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 The inflated importance of the Battle of Waterloo. Napoleon had lost in Russia and then lost the key battle at Leipzig. Lost at Paris and went into exile. Came back and lost Waterloo. Had he won at Waterloo he still wouldn't have conquered Europe. Had he won in Russia or especially at Leipzig he would really threatened to. It's like saying D Day turned the tide of WW2 not Stalingrad. I hate history inflated to give a positive light on the countries involved. Waterloo in my mind is the worst case of English historians doing this.Yes Yes, but the war was ended there, I guess that's why it's so symbolic. It's more the equivalent of the Russian assault on Berlin (or the atomic bombings of Japan) than the equivalent of Stalingrad. did you watch stone's untold history program? one of the episodes was on the russians and their importance in WW2 and the d-day / stalingrad reference etc etc theres also a really good BBC book / series called WW2 behind closed doors which goes on about the politics of the 2nd front in europe and the delays however 2nd episode of the stone show was the atomic bombs and how one of the leading japs was quoted as saying 1 bomb or 10k bombs it makes no difference, the russians invaded the north smashed a few battles, the japs surrendered i havent had a chance yet to really read up on it, but why the **** has that never been taught to me? i did a-level history and id say thats when you get told about stalingrad and where WW2 went south for the germans, really dont know why they always lead us to believe it was the bombs that finished everything though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2013 In response to the topic title: Women's Football. It isn't going to take on in this country, so I do wish the BBC would stop trying to push it onto us. Not with that attitude, it isn't. I did specifically refer it back to the topic title I appreciate it's not a particularly cultured view to have, but it doesn't interest me in the slightest, and from my personal experience, this puts me amongst the vast majority of people. It's like most sports. The women's game is less popular because the standard is lower. That's not sexist, it's just a fact. And as Conor says, people want to see the highest standard most of the time so women's football is going to suffer, just like the COnference North is hardly pulling in 40k crowds every week. The difference is is that Women's football seems to have gotten a huge push in recent times, not just by the BBC. And I'm sure it's probably worked. I'd wager interest has increased. But it's always going to be dwarfed by the male game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 In response to the topic title: Women's Football. It isn't going to take on in this country, so I do wish the BBC would stop trying to push it onto us. Its great in a country like this because the women play it and understand it and want their children to play it as well.Not all kids want to be like their dad and not all dads have the last say.So, for countries like Australia,New Zealand, USA etc womens football is good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2013 A guy from my office trying to order a pint of orange juice and lemonade from a waitress who spoke no English (we were in Spain) by just repeating it over and over, and then getting annoyed when she got the order wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted July 16, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted July 16, 2013 Washing machine that beeps non stop for like 3 minutes when the washing is done. Whoever thought that people needed to drop what they're doing and run to quickly empty the washing machine needs to die a painful death. Wish mine did that. Went to put a load of washing on last night only to find the machine full of damp, mildewy clothes that had been sat in it since Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 from what i can remember its really hard to get proper lemonade in spain, they drink fanta limon instead, which is what we pretty much bottle up as traditional / cloudy lemonade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 "Cerveza" is the only word you need... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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