Dodgyknees Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 We should give the manager and coaching staff a chance to work on him, like they have done with Delph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 He was awful today but how can people write him off already. Bloody stupid. We are Villa fans, that's what we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 that that was the worst debut I can remember seeing in a Villa shirt. It wasn't as bad as Ehiogu's. Also against Norwich. I sense a conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Very poor IMO, rash with his decision making. Honestly we've seen Albrighton do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Mark me down as someone who's willing to give the guy a chance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I think we all are but that doesnt mean hes exempt from being criticised when he has a shocker and shoots 15 times per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Indeed. To clarify, criticising a new signing's performance doesn't equate to writing him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers13 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Indeed. To clarify, criticising a new signing's performance doesn't equate to writing him off. Its more about the people that are saying he'll never amount to anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I truely hope he comes good, but my point is currently I don't think he offers anymore than Albrighton. He looked quite the liability infact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) So with a midfield that has 1 goal in 90 odd appearances were screaming for a midfielder that is happy to have a crack at goal, we sign one and destroy him after 70 minutes into his full debut because he didn't score with one of his 7 shots. Edited September 22, 2013 by Jimzk5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 this forum is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I reckon Lambert asked Tonev to see if he could hit Delia Smith straight in the mush just for old times sake What other possible explanation could there be for such piss poor shooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folski Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 I don't think anyone's writing him off just highlighting how bad he was, showed glimpses v Malaga needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 (edited) Notice he made MOTD2 in the 2 Good/2 Bad slot. (He was Bad in case you're wondering). To balance that, Brad G was one of the Goods Edited September 22, 2013 by briny_ear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KjParton Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Christ MOTD 2 taking the piss out of his shot and Shelvey's free kick :'( - they were both horrific! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssexVilla Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 So with a midfield that has 1 goal in 90 odd appearances were screaming for a midfielder that is happy to have a crack at goal, we sign one and destroy him after 70 minutes into his full debut because he didn't score with one of his 7 shots. It isn't black or white. We need more goals from our midfield to move up the table but the midfield taking shots at every opportunity isn't the answer. The odd shot from distance if the opportunity arises is good. The sole objective of shooting every time you get the ball in an advanced position is bad as it pisses away possession when there is a chance to create a better opportunity. In my opinion Tonev has potential but judging from the little I've seen of him he needs to improve his decision-making. However, he seems reasonably proficient technically, has the pace to create a half yard and tracks back defensively. Definitely a project for Lambert and his staff to work on. Especially as some of his decisions to shoot may be a result of the pressure to impress early on in a big step up in his career. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I am writing him off. Ill put my hand up. I hope he proves me wrong and scores 10 goals this season. He wont though.. I am happy for him to get more chances dont get me wrong.. but from what ive seen of him and the few pre season games i saw with him.. I dont think hes very good. Go on Tonev.. prove me wrong son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 23, 2013 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2013 Wrote him off a month ago. Copy here what KSV said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 I just rewatched the game. All the negatives are true BUT he had a nice little spell at the start of the second half in terms of tackles and trying to get a counter going. I watched him whenever he was on camera he really put in a shift work rate wise, he also has some very good pace. For those of us looking for positives, some hope there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 He has got ability, no question. He just needs to calm down and think a bit more. If can be more selective in his shooting and stop shooting on sight and look to pass the ball more then he will be an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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