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IF he really cares about villa as a football club, he'd be sacking the manager belatedly today

He doesn't care though, it matters not to him in his heart if we go down, only his wallet will hurt a bit more

The way Lerner is carrying on and the money he must be losing together with the useless manager he has signed ( cause he MUST know that by now ) it makes you wonder if there is an ulteria motive to buying Aston Villa ? maybe some sort of tax dodge ?

Cause if you really do want to owne your owne football club then surely you would want your club to be successfull ?

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There are no grounds for keeping McLeish now, other than to save another compensation payment

Perhaps if he relegates us, there's a termination clause in his contract that states no pay off ??

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There are no grounds for keeping McLeish now, other than to save another compensation payment

Perhaps if he relegates us, there's a termination clause in his contract that states no pay off ??

Again, this is heresay from the Four Oaks set, but McLeish's wife was apparently overheard discussing the amount of compensation he is in line to receive (GBP2m)

Very much heresay, but it might give some people hope :)

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He lives in Dorridge not Four Oaks

I didn't say that he lives in Four Oaks, just that it was heresay from the Four Oaks set.

You would be surprised at the amount of different football people that turn up at their hangouts.

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he has still pumped millions of his own cash into the club, money he wont be getting back. and i have no doubt that despite his mistakes he has the best interests of avfc at heart...

No he has loaned millions, very big difference and we are now being crippled by those loans as he cuts budgets in order to repay them and the interest (though at a small percentage) and management fees.

Nope, he's done both. He's loaned us a fortune and he's given us a fortune out of his own pocket each year too - something like £20m in the last years accounts. Oddly, I've a feeling that this has been a pretty consistent figure throughout his tenure, sadly it used to pay for new exciting players, now it pays for mismanagement on lot of levels.

Whatever his intentions he is making a monumental mess of running the club and is in danger of actually taking us backwards from the position he found us in which will be some achievement considering the debts the club has accumulated.

Never has so much money been spent, borrowed and given away for so little result. I don't know how Randy's heart feels about the Villa, but I'm sure he'll miss the hundred odd million pounds he'll never see again - and I doubt there are many people who will have a more pressing motivation to start getting it right.

His mistakes hurt us and I can thoroughly understand the anger people feel, but they hurt him too, maybe in more ways, maybe in different ways but he's putting in a fortune at the moment and he'll be very much aware he's thrown that money down the drain.

He needs to get it right - for Aston Villa and maybe for Randy Lerner too.

Good post OBE

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Anybody else hear John Deehan on Radio WM this morning?

He reckons that Hughes & Martinez both turned down the job because they wanted to bring in their own staff but McLeish was happy to work with who was here already.

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My biggest worry at the minute is that Randy is willing to just sit cowering and let this happen. For god sake man your club is in ruins. Either man up and sack McLeish or at least come out and back YOUR man.

Sitting there and doing nothing is the biggest crime that Learner has been guilty of. The quiet man of football is rarely heard from.

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Anybody else hear John Deehan on Radio WM this morning?

He reckons that Hughes & Martinez both turned down the job because they wanted to bring in their own staff but McLeish was happy to work with who was here already.

What staff? Didn't he take Grant with him from sha?

Please, Lerner, send AML away and get some proper advice on who to bring in and give him your full backing. The wages must be sorted by now and we can start a new. Let someone else take care of the team for the rest of the season. It can't get any worse. We might even win a game.

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