AVFCforever1991 Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) If the vote is between Hiliary and Trump, then you're better off leaving the country... Edited March 26, 2016 by AVFCforever1991 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 Either way, all the coverage it's getting means we get a lot of Amanda Walker on Sky News which is good by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 1 hour ago, AVFCforever1991 said: If the vote is between Hiliary and Trump, then you're better off leaving the country... They better start flooding out then as those will be the options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 26, 2016 Author Share Posted March 26, 2016 9 hours ago, AVFCforever1991 said: If the vote is between Hiliary and Trump, then you're better off leaving the country... good to see you back posting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Demitri_C said: They better start flooding out then as those will be the options There's still a chance of a contested convention in which somebody like Paul Ryan could come out of nowhere and clinch the nomination. If Trump gets the Republican nomination they'll be wiped out in Congress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 15 hours ago, Dom_Wren said: Boys, for the first time in 17.5 years of living here, i have a vote..... I care about a lot of things, but honestly, one of the biggest things i care about is 2A....the other massive thing i care about is not having a complete numpty in charge. seems like im in a lose/lose. Like, for real? I know you love your guns but are they really more important to you than poverty, health care, education, climate change, jobs etc? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villakram Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 4 hours ago, Mantis said: There's still a chance of a contested convention in which somebody like Paul Ryan could come out of nowhere and clinch the nomination. If Trump gets the Republican nomination they'll be wiped out in Congress. Why would Ryan do this? If Clinton was going to be indicted, then he might have a free run, but otherwise he's a known quantity with plenty of neo-liberal free market bs baggage (e.g., various crap budgets, 2012/Romney) and would be very unlikely to beat Hillary. Right now, he's in a position of incredible power in the US governmental system and if instead of fighting Trump, they united with him in some way, the repubs are in with a good shot of keeping the Senate in repub hands (the house is a gerrymandered lock). If they lose this, he doesn't take a lot of personal damage (blame Trump), keeps his current position and will be positioned for a much stronger presidential challenge in the future. I think Ryan is a bit of a scumbag but I recognize him as a smart man also and can't imagine him taking such a risky chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 33 minutes ago, villakram said: Why would Ryan do this? If Clinton was going to be indicted, then he might have a free run, but otherwise he's a known quantity with plenty of neo-liberal free market bs baggage (e.g., various crap budgets, 2012/Romney) and would be very unlikely to beat Hillary. Right now, he's in a position of incredible power in the US governmental system and if instead of fighting Trump, they united with him in some way, the repubs are in with a good shot of keeping the Senate in repub hands (the house is a gerrymandered lock). If they lose this, he doesn't take a lot of personal damage (blame Trump), keeps his current position and will be positioned for a much stronger presidential challenge in the future. I think Ryan is a bit of a scumbag but I recognize him as a smart man also and can't imagine him taking such a risky chance. Clinton really isn't that popular - I think he'd fancy his chances against her and although he has a lot of power already I don't think he could pass up the chance to become president if the opportunity came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted March 26, 2016 Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mantis said: Clinton really isn't that popular - I think he'd fancy his chances against her and although he has a lot of power already I don't think he could pass up the chance to become president if the opportunity came up. Oh, I agree. Clinton is very beatable and I think that even Trump will have a very good shot at beating her. But if Ryan were to be the nominee, he will have done so via starting an open civil war in the republican party and I would not expect Trump to go quietly into the night. In such a fractured race there is no plausible way for a republican candidate to win the electoral college... and I suspect Ryan knows this too, as do the smarter heads in the repub party irrespective of the current game being played. Edited March 26, 2016 by villakram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 27, 2016 Moderator Share Posted March 27, 2016 Good week for Bernie - three wins and a bird. It's a little too late, but it's nice to know that not everyone across the pond is a dribbling Trumpmonkey. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 27, 2016 Share Posted March 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Good week for Bernie - three wins and a bird. It's a little too late, but it's nice to know that not everyone across the pond is a dribbling Trumpmonkey. ... or a word removed-onite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 Trump seems to have blown it with his punish women comment .... Seems there is a line that he could step over before he upset America after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 3, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 3, 2016 Huge leak at a law firm in Panama reveals the illegal tax evasion committed by the Prime Minister of Iceland who upset the banks, Putin who refuses to play fair, leaders from Argentina who refused to recognise the debt to a hedge fund that would have shut down half of the country, Brazil, who have the largest publicly owned oil company in the world and of course Egypt's former president Hosni Mubarak, Libya's former leader Muammar Gaddafi and Syria's president Bashar al-Assad. Strangely, no activity involving any American firms, multi national Oil companies, western banks, hedge funds or financiers or leaders from the US or any countries they are friends with appear to have been discovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 3, 2016 Author Share Posted April 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Huge leak at a law firm in Panama reveals the illegal tax evasion committed by the Prime Minister of Iceland who upset the banks, Putin who refuses to play fair, leaders from Argentina who refused to recognise the debt to a hedge fund that would have shut down half of the country, Brazil, who have the largest publicly owned oil company in the world and of course Egypt's former president Hosni Mubarak, Libya's former leader Muammar Gaddafi and Syria's president Bashar al-Assad. Strangely, no activity involving any American firms, multi national Oil companies, western banks, hedge funds or financiers or leaders from the US or any countries they are friends with appear to have been discovered. They could have been discovered and just not disseminated...the political motivation of the leaker is up for scrutiny, especially with no American links being revealed. Panama is in some ways a satellite state of the US so the leaker might have a personal interest in not exposing any American links. Quite the racket though. It's frightening to ponder on how much sleaze and corruption out there exists in the shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 (edited) You have all been fooled by the media, Trump is a really nice guy. Edited April 3, 2016 by Ikantcpell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 It's looking increasingly unlikely that Trump will have the required delegates for the convention and in that scenario neither Cruz or Kasich have much of a chance of becoming the nominee either - it'll likely be somebody from the outside. His odds have moved in but Paul Ryan is still a good bet right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 4, 2016 Author Share Posted April 4, 2016 The GOP convention is going to be ugly, inside and outside the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted April 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 4, 2016 20 hours ago, maqroll said: They could have been discovered and just not disseminated...the political motivation of the leaker is up for scrutiny, especially with no American links being revealed. Panama is in some ways a satellite state of the US so the leaker might have a personal interest in not exposing any American links. Quite the racket though. It's frightening to ponder on how much sleaze and corruption out there exists in the shadows. It's actually starting to look like there more Western exposure than initially noted. France Australia and the UK are amongst the nations looking into it, and David Cameron's late father is in the files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted April 4, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, maqroll said: The GOP convention is going to be ugly, inside and outside the building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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