Captain_Townsend Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Rds1983 said: As long as him going down doesn't galvanise them and turn him more into a messiah like figure. Part of me would prefer he runs and is just utterly humiliated, with that being the nail in the coffin for his movement. Stopping whoever will come next too. If he is on the Ballot there is a good chance Putin interferes somehow as in 2016. Putin wants to end Aestern leadership in global affairs. He is an enemy of our democracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 hours ago, maqroll said: Obama-apppointed judge. A scathing indictment. A D.C. jury should be good for a conviction. A bit refreshing to see someone who knows more than a modicum about US politics here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Yeah if the jury is just from DC then surely Trump is screwed? He got less than 6% of the vote in the 2020 election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Captain_Townsend said: For all our sakes we need Trump to go down and for his cult followers to wake up. Trump returned equals Fascism in America and PutinFascism rampant in Europe. That is absolutely not going to happen regardless. Trump right now could murder babies live on television and there would be no less support from his insane followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maqroll Posted August 2, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, legov said: A bit refreshing to see someone who knows more than a modicum about US politics here. Not so fast, there are some very well informed non-American posters in this topic! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Rds1983 said: Part of me would prefer he runs and is just utterly humiliated, with that being the nail in the coffin for his movement. yeah, I think that would be better.....but if he wins..... I'd really like to see some extensive opinion polls about voting intention Dem v GOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) USA has had its credit rating downgraded by Fitch. In reality it's nothing, we lost our top rating ages ago. it's hard to see how many nations could keep a top rating in the current world, but I expect Biden will get an absolute bashing over it. Edited August 2, 2023 by sidcow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, The Fun Factory said: Yeah if the jury is just from DC then surely Trump is screwed? He got less than 6% of the vote in the 2020 election. Think I’d prefer it not to be from such an anti-Trump location. A DC jury just reinforces the divide. A Florida jury convicting (presuming they assess the case on evidence rather than partisan lines, which I know is a big ask) would surely mean they couldn’t just claim lefty bias and continue the polarising culture wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 2, 2023 Moderator Share Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, choffer said: Think I’d prefer it not to be from such an anti-Trump location. A DC jury just reinforces the divide. A Florida jury convicting (presuming they assess the case on evidence rather than partisan lines, which I know is a big ask) would surely mean they couldn’t just claim lefty bias and continue the polarising culture wars. But this particular Trump crime happened in DC not Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, bickster said: But this particular Trump crime happened in DC not Florida I get that. It was more general comment that a conviction from DC would land very different to one from a Trumpist heartland. If he’s going down, I’m delighted (kw.gif) but I fear this happening in DC will further entrench the view that he’s been victimised by those goshdarned liberal work leftist anteefa mob. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, choffer said: I get that. It was more general comment that a conviction from DC would land very different to one from a Trumpist heartland. If he’s going down, I’m delighted (kw.gif) but I fear this happening in DC will further entrench the view that he’s been victimised by those goshdarned liberal work leftist anteefa mob. If it was held in a red state he would be found innocent. 2024 is going to be interesting/hellish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 3 hours ago, maqroll said: Not so fast, there are some very well informed non-American posters in this topic! Yeah sorry tbf last few ones have been pretty great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maqroll Posted August 2, 2023 Author Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, ml1dch said: Rooney on the right, Danny Murphy on the left Edited August 2, 2023 by maqroll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted August 2, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3, 2023 You won't catch me kvetching about the headlines today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Trump is a piece of shit, even after being warned by the judge can’t help himself by more stoking of the fire of division. Pushing the narrative it’s all political, and democracy is at stake. One of his mental supporters will do something crazy at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Genie Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 It all seems a little bit pointless as I doubt Trump will ever end up behind bars which is the only place the world will be safe from him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Im suprised that he is even allowed to run for election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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