Rugeley Villa Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) Being told off by Stefan Edited February 3, 2017 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NurembergVillan said: Right on cue, Sunday is Visit My Mosque Day! http://www.visitmymosque.org/ I'm going to take me nipper. The nearest mosque to me is serving up samosas and cake. Yes please! Damn, I'm gutted I'm over here for that. I've never been a mosque and I'd be interested in going to chat with Muslims who go to Mosque about their views on things going on. When I was in high school, we did a Gurdwara and the food was amazing. Edited February 3, 2017 by StefanAVFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Being told off by Stefan And this response shows you'll never ever change your views. Not even an willingness to even entertain the thought of a change. Not even an attempt to engage with any of my points. I'd say it's a shame, but it's worse than that because as you said, lots of people hold the same view as you. Edited February 3, 2017 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted February 3, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, NurembergVillan said: Right on cue, Sunday is Visit My Mosque Day! http://www.visitmymosque.org/ I'm going to take me nipper. The nearest mosque to me is serving up samosas and cake. Yes please! that's you and your nipper never being allowed into America again 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just now, StefanAVFC said: And this response shows you'll never ever change your views. Not even an willingness to even entertain the thought of a change. Not even an attempt to engage with any of my points. I'd say it's a shame, but it's worse than that because as you said, lots of people hold the same view as you. Stop being so serious. Over the years I have changed so you're wrong there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Damn, I'm gutted. I've never been a mosque. When I was in high school, we did a Gurdwara and the food was amazing. one of the advantageous of being an international man of mystery is I've visited dozens , the ones in Esfahan (Iran ) are stunning buildings as is the one in Bandar Seri Begawan though I couldn't go inside that one for some reason ... whilst the majority of people in the mosque ignore you , there are always lot of "Hello" and "welcomes" sometimes even cups of tea ...if only they could move up from the stone age and segregation areas for men and women the cynic in me wants to know why they spend all that money when people around are in poverty but I could levy the argument against all religions ... P.s .. Gurdwara is Sikh , you might mean something else ? Edited February 3, 2017 by tonyh29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: one of the advantageous of being an international man of mystery is I've visited dozens , the ones in Esfahan (Iran ) are stunning buildings as is the one in Bandar Seri Begawan though I couldn't go inside that one for some reason ... whilst the majority of people in the mosque ignore you , there are always lot of "Hello" and "welcomes" sometimes even cups of tea ...if only they could move up from the stone age and segregation areas for men and women the cynic in me wants to know why they spend all that money when people around are in poverty but I could levy the argument against all religions ... P.s .. Gurdwara is Sikh , you might mean something else ? It was a separate point. 1) I've never been to a Mosque. 2) I have, however, been to a Gurdwara Come on Tony 23 minutes ago, tonyh29 said: the cynic in me wants to know why they spend all that money when people around are in poverty but I could levy the argument against all religions ... The catholic churches here are ridiculously ornate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 3, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: that's you and your nipper never being allowed into America again By the time she's old enough to appreciate travel there might not be much of it left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choffer Posted February 3, 2017 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2017 On 28/01/2017 at 22:37, TheAuthority said: Trump's probably already thinking he is going to build a wall on the Canadian Border now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I've been to a mosque in Turkey and Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogso Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Right on cue, Sunday is Visit My Mosque Day! http://www.visitmymosque.org/ I'm going to take me nipper. The nearest mosque to me is serving up samosas and cake. Yes please! This is good. It's not so good that less than 10% of Mosques in the UK are taking part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I've been to a mosque in Turkey and Rhodes. And vacated quickly after setting off the timer? ;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted February 3, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Jon said: And vacated quickly after setting off the timer? ;-) oooooooo...ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jon said: And vacated quickly after setting off the timer? ;-) Yep, im a white supremacist after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 13 hours ago, tonyh29 said: Going OT a little but Mike said the same thing in another thread I just find it interesting , I mean my close friends are all from school , from football clubs I've played for , I'd say it was 50 / 50 ... my friendships formed with them over many years before any of us could even vote or express a political opinion .. if I extended it further to friends I see regularly it might swing a little but not much , maybe 52 - 48 I just wonder how someone ends up with a friend base of pretty much everyone with one view ( same applies to Ruge with his 95% rule not just you and MJ ) ... friendships aren't built around political leanings are they ? Even socialising.... how can people see both sides if they are only exposed to a 95 % ? 4 hours ago, MakemineVanilla said: In Adam Curtis's documentary HyperNormalisation he reaches the same conclusion when explaining the Brexit-Trump phenomena. He typically blames Internet algorithms for ensuring that people only hear opinions they agree with but I think it is clear that it is people, who choose what they are prepared to hear or read and who shut-down any discussion/opinion which does not confirm their resolutely defended belief-system. It is not a matter of freedom of speech, it is more a case of freedom to agree. I'm glad to have a wide range of friends to my way of thinking at least. What I'm glad of is that those friendships are strong enough to survive some disagreement, certainly political. I've never been one to surround myself with sychophants. What binds us all is a common humanity otherwise I wouldn't class them among my friends. So in a way I'm not surrounding myself with enough hate filled opinions to get a balanced view The algorithms on facebook for example that have narrowed the scope of what appears in your 'news' feed are obvious to anyone that's ever used it. However what did surprise me around the Brexit vote in the UK was the amount of my friends (real ones, as well as the facebook variety) who were gleefully purging their friends lists of people who had supported an opposing view. Few people are interested in extremist views on either side of any debate, yet their actions are that of extremism and narrowing the debate to a point where they feel emboldened in their own echo chamber. That the internet is the antithesis to this narrowing of information exchange it's really quite masterful how it's been turned on it's head to the masses in such a short space of time. Even blocking people on sites like this is just burying your head in the sand, sticking your fingers in your ears and going 'la la la la'. When you do this too much you end up in a situation where the liberal centrists on both sides of the atlantic are staring at Brexit and Trump in utter disbelief wondering how this has happened and the truth is it's because they weren't prepared to engage properly in the debate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 3 hours ago, NurembergVillan said: Right on cue, Sunday is Visit My Mosque Day! http://www.visitmymosque.org/ I'm going to take me nipper. The nearest mosque to me is serving up samosas and cake. Yes please! The main mosque in my little town used to be a bible college in a former life. It's claim to fame was that it's where the rev Iain Paisley learnt his schtick. Been in there a few times over the years. Disappointingly mundane. I pressed loads of walls and at no point did I find the secret weapons room or a dungeon full of fallen wimmin. That's both as a mosque and as a bible college. Some people just got no flare or vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyblade Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, Xann said: Social media is such a double edged sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 3, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2017 45 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Social media is such a double edged sword. Twitter has certainly provided a platform for people to be hostile towards each other in a way that most would never dare in real life. I can't help but feel it's had some part in the outlook of modern folks, and played a role in the shape of politics right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NurembergVillan Posted February 3, 2017 Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, hogso said: This is good. It's not so good that less than 10% of Mosques in the UK are taking part. To be fair, a lot tend to be concentrated in a small area so some are grouping together and holding the event at one venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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