Woodytom Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Do not think he was brilliant as some are suggesting. He was good and showed some excellent touches, but him and Delph always seem a second away from a wayward pass or diabolical clearance. I'm pretty sure Westwood has comfortably the highest pass completion ratio in our squad, and is pretty high up in the league with that ratio. He has his weaknesses, but misplacing passes isn't one of them. We may have to disagree Steveo. Tbh, I watch him quite closely and I will admit (as I do not really rate him) that I watch him with perhaps more scrutiny than other players. But I know what I see and there was one incident that sticks in my mind where he hopelessly cleared the ball, about 10 yards from our penalty area. Think it may have led to the De Jong chance but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The De Jong chance came from him not clearing it. Against Stoke his pass completion was 71% with 4 villa players beating that and against Newcastle it was 88% with only 2 villa players beating that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannockVillan Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 In fairness to him that was a ball he had to wait for to come down by which time siem de jong nipped it off his toes. Happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 25, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2014 Do not think he was brilliant as some are suggesting. He was good and showed some excellent touches, but him and Delph always seem a second away from a wayward pass or diabolical clearance. I'm pretty sure Westwood has comfortably the highest pass completion ratio in our squad, and is pretty high up in the league with that ratio. He has his weaknesses, but misplacing passes isn't one of them. We may have to disagree Steveo. Tbh, I watch him quite closely and I will admit (as I do not really rate him) that I watch him with perhaps more scrutiny than other players. But I know what I see and there was one incident that sticks in my mind where he hopelessly cleared the ball, about 10 yards from our penalty area. Think it may have led to the De Jong chance but not sure. Yeah, he failed to clear the ball and De jong had a chance. It wasn't a misplaced pass. But even so that's one instance in 2 games. The stats PROVE that he gives the ball away less than anyone in our team. In fact he gives the ball away less than about 90% of players in the entire league. You admit yourself you scrutinise him too much. So you may disagree, but in telling you what the stats prove. So it would suggest you're wrong, and you're being too hard on him.The De Jong chance came from him not clearing it. Against Stoke his pass completion was 71% with 4 villa players beating that and against Newcastle it was 88% with only 2 villa players beating that.he had the highest pass completion so far, excluding the anomalies of players coming on and making like 1 pass so they have 100% record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Yeah I don't think you can criticise Westwood's ability to keep the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 He's a decent enough player but he still just doesn't do enough for me. Delphs a far better player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Totally different type players though aren't they. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Totally different type players though aren't they. This is what I was going to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Interesting comment by Gary Neville yday watching the Sland vs Ure game, he said that not enough Utd players are making a risky pass, they are looking for the safe pass all the time, it means they keep the ball, have high stats, but don't hurt the opposition. The best pass on sat was by Sanchez, for us to get higher we need a player who can make passes that hurt the opposition.In 2 years of watching Westwood, i'm not sure he has the ability to do that, too many "safe" passes imho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Westwood does play the safe ball but that's what's needed at times. Even though he was excellent against Newcastle I'd still drop him for the hull game. Its a game we can win and we need to create more chances so we need an attacking player in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Apart from the numerous assists in the 2 years right? Westwood is the most likely to make the risky pass in our midfield. He had a good game, so you're finding yet something else to criticise him for. Take a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I accept that you rate him Stefan, and i appreciate that, but apart from the pass to Gabby against Norwich, i am struggling to think of that many passes that he has done like that to set up goals. I object to the talking up of him that makes him sound like the new Merse, hes nowhere near that standard, and thats the kind of player we need in our team now.We have the "water carriers" of Delph and Sanchez, we now need a good footballer, a no 10 if you like to play alongside him, imho that is not Westwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Am I right in thinking that there were only two English players to create more chances for others than Westwood last season Gerrard was one, can't remember the other Don't forget, to get assists you need two things to happen, one that is completely out of your control Edited August 25, 2014 by bannedfromHandV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenko#4 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Am I right in thinking that there were only two English players to create more chances for others than Westwood last season Gerrard was one, can't remember the other Don't forget, to get assists you need two things to happen, one that is completely out of your control Yep, Gerrard and Lallana were the only other English players to create more chances than Westwood last season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PieFacE Posted August 25, 2014 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2014 I think Westwood is the first name on the team sheet for me. Every team needs a player like him. Someone who is calm on the ball who can do the simple thing. Once Sanchez is playing and is up to the pace of the Premier League, Westwood and Delph will push forward a bit more and I think Westwood will become a better player for it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) I accept that you rate him Stefan, and i appreciate that, but apart from the pass to Gabby against Norwich, i am struggling to think of that many passes that he has done like that to set up goals. I object to the talking up of him that makes him sound like the new Merse, hes nowhere near that standard, and thats the kind of player we need in our team now.We have the "water carriers" of Delph and Sanchez, we now need a good footballer, a no 10 if you like to play alongside him, imho that is not Westwood. So if you rate him, you have to rate him as the new Merse? Absolute nonsense. For one, they're totally different players. He's comfortably one of the best footballers in our side (note: I didn't say players) so your criticism is getting more and more desperate now. Edited August 25, 2014 by StefanAVFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Ok Stefan.........time will tell.I hope he is as good as you rate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 The created chances results are pointless. Every long ball to Benteke/Kozak that they head towards goal is a 'chance' I think. Im sure Downing has created the most chances over the last 4 years or something, mainly due to aiming at Andy Carroll. We had Bannan who played a lot of risky passes and he got hated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Have to say you miss my point though.We need a creative midfielder in the team, you think Westwood can be that player, i have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulver Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 very underrated player. and always more likely to make the important pass than say Delph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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