dont_do_it_doug. Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 8 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Shite at every level, he offers nothing, ridiculous that we didn't replace him in the summer. I think they have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Woodytom said: My point is that I don't believe he has even attempted to better himself. He's just kinda accepted that he can be an anonymous cog in a utterly woeful system. Never once has he attempted to stand up and be counted in a game. Certainly not that I've seen anyway. There is more to being 'a professional' than trying your best. Completely disagree there. I see a player who tries his hardest but just can't impact/influence/take control of a game like a better player would. But that's down to his ability as a footballer, not mental aspects. From my perspective, it certainly isn't attitude and effort that lets Westwood down. As a squad player he's fine, we just need better in the middle of the park. Edited September 16, 2016 by PieFacE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 No graphs of forward passes? Im disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Always thought Westwood knows what to do with the ball,I think maybe he is lacking in the ability to execute those ideas. When you watch him he always tries to do the right thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 last season after the Wycombe game I said he might have found his level and some people criticized me saying that was an overreaction and he better than that. so maybe League 1 is his level 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 13 hours ago, PieFacE said: Completely disagree there. I see a player who tries his hardest but just can't impact/influence/take control of a game like a better player would. But that's down to his ability as a footballer, not mental aspects. From my perspective, it certainly isn't attitude and effort that lets Westwood down. As a squad player he's fine, we just need better in the middle of the park. 13 hours ago, PieFacE said: As a squad player he's fine, we just need better in the middle of the park. Sorry, but I dont get this logic we need better on the pitch - pointing to him not being good enough However, Good enough for the squad - The squad being a pool of players good enough to do a job in the first 11. Westwood is shit for the 1st 11, shit for the bench and shit for the squad. He is of no use to us whatsoever 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 hours ago, Zatman said: last season after the Wycombe game I said he might have found his level and some people criticized me saying that was an overreaction and he better than that. so maybe League 1 is his level TBH it's probably not far off. He's certainly not good enough to be a regular for a championship team aiming to finish in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Grasshopper said: Sorry, but I dont get this logic we need better on the pitch - pointing to him not being good enough However, Good enough for the squad - The squad being a pool of players good enough to do a job in the first 11. Westwood is shit for the 1st 11, shit for the bench and shit for the squad. He is of no use to us whatsoever But the reality is, no squad in the world has 25 players of equal quality unless you're Man City. Certainly no team in the Championship has a squad of equal quality. It's just not feasible, otherwise everyone would be earning the same wage and that's just not possible. There will always be your first 11, and the players who will come on the bench wont be as good. It's natural. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 23 minutes ago, PieFacE said: But the reality is, no squad in the world has 25 players of equal quality unless you're Man City. Certainly no team in the Championship has a squad of equal quality. It's just not feasible, otherwise everyone would be earning the same wage and that's just not possible. There will always be your first 11, and the players who will come on the bench wont be as good. It's natural. Sorry, but a Squad should consist of cover for each position AND youngsters coming through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) Did this guy really make gueye look that bad or was that his own doing. I won't say i can't believe because I know he's good but I'm rather surprised that idrissa gueye has been the best midfielder in the premier league this season. Edited September 17, 2016 by Johnnyp mistake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Its a pity Salifou never got to play 130 games for Villa, he would have looked better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Grasshopper said: Sorry, but a Squad should consist of cover for each position AND youngsters coming through And Westwood should be cover for the CM position. Not sure what your point is? Edited September 17, 2016 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Did this guy really make gueye look that bad or was that his own doing. I won't say i can't believe because I know he's good but I'm rather surprised that idrissa gueye has been the best midfielder in the premier league this season. It has only been 4 games. For 20 minutes v man utd last season he looked the best player ever to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted September 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 I truly believe we will never fully progress as long as this bloke is a regular starter for us. I can't believe someone as shit as he is has played so many games. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's **** shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: And Westwood should be cover for the CM position. Not sure what your point is? In an ideal world he shouldn't even be cover in the real world he's better than Gardner and lyden and after that there's no one else coming through making him 3rd choice in a 2 or 3 man midfield formation, with injuries and 46 league games, we can't get rid of him without buying at least another 2 midfielders madness that for the last 6 games we've been unable to play a central midfield 3, we desperately need more central midfielders Edited September 17, 2016 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LxYoungAVFC Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 (edited) Passive...in every way shape and form. Its not just him....but he is a big part of it. Edited September 17, 2016 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 hours ago, Johnnyp said: Did this guy really make gueye look that bad or was that his own doing. I won't say i can't believe because I know he's good but I'm rather surprised that idrissa gueye has been the best midfielder in the premier league this season. ..........aided and abetted by Gareth Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Woodytom Posted September 17, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 17, 2016 23 hours ago, DCJonah said: It shows how shit he's become. It's gone from people arguing he's important to us in the premier league, to no one being able to claim he should be starting regular while we struggle in the championship. It's not that he's become shit, he always was shit. More that the ppl saying he was important to us in the premier league were talking utter bollocks. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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