SikhInTrinity Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I think it's disgraceful by Villa, they go on about we can't renew deals until end of season but agree a pre-deal with Holman! Cuellar has been nothing but a great pro, never moaned, compare him to the **** Collins? Did Bale get anything out of him today, he's a very good defender and in my opinion has been key to why were staying up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Gutted he's going. Love the guy and think he's a good defender to go with it. I don't see how financially we'll find a better deal. He could be a 1st choice CB on what, £30-40k a week, (on top of the fact we don't have to pay a fee for him) but instead we're going to keep both Dunne and Collins? When Dunne definitely is on more and Collins I imagine similar. We could get fee's for those two as well!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houlston Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 He's a decent defender but nothing more, would have liked him to stay but maybe he wants more than a two year deal to stay in this country, maybe he can get paid more elsewhere on a free especially with tax different in Spain to here. Seems a nice guy but not that bothered really, we've lost far far better players than him. Plus I think Baker, whilst making a few errors, has also shown some potential but its no surprise he made some errors given his inexperience and the amount he had to defend in the games he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 The only senior defender who appears to give a shit, doesn't get pissed up, slag off the fans, get thrown out of nightclubs or argue with Sid Cowans on team bonding trips as well as putting in consistent performances at RB or CB whenever asked to play. So what does the astute management of Aston Villa do? It's like a bad joke really. One I'm all too sick of hearing. People can say all they like about his ability, maybe he's not good enough to challenge for the top 4 but we're a million miles away from that - what we need now is a bit of stability and experience while we rebuild, sell off the chaff and bad apples. Good luck Carlos, I could think of 3/4 players I'd have out the door before yourself. Hopefully he can now achieve a bit of success or a decent pay day in the Middle East! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Thanks for your hard work Carlos - take care!! Please don't join another prem team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Would much prefer it if Dunne or Collins were leavingi instead. Then again, with Mcleish in charge it's no surprise he has messed something up again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlitobrigante Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 yet another balls up by the club. losing Cuellar, while Dunne and Collins are still about. Dunne has his moments, but Collins i think is utter gash. Cuellar is clearly our best CB, yet regardless of manager gets a raw deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1968 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 So many games this season when we really needed a centre half who could attack the ball in the box and he was sitting on the bench. mcleish out now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 It is not about ability, Collins, Dunne and Cuellar are on high wages and with Clark and Baker in reserve one of them had to go to get the wages down Cuellar is going simply due to he is out of contract. It would be the same no matter who is in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 It is not about ability, Collins, Dunne and Cuellar are on high wages and with Clark and Baker in reserve one of them had to go to get the wages down Cuellar is going simply due to he is out of contract. It would be the same no matter who is in charge. but cuellar's on the lowest wages out of those 3, and is arguably the best centre back in the club. plus if we're going to try to move collins and dunne on, why not just tie up carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I think it's disgraceful by Villa, they go on about we can't renew deals until end of season but agree a pre-deal with Holman! Cuellar has been nothing but a great pro, never moaned, compare him to the **** Collins? Did Bale get anything out of him today, he's a very good defender and in my opinion has been key to why were staying up! Is it not possible somebody offered Cuellar a better contract and he wasn't prepared to wait until the summer to see if Villa would match it? Hardly unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 One of the very few guaranteed a great reception if he returns to VP. Will always remember the "Carlos Cuellar, Villa centre Half" chant booming at out Prague. Thanks Carlos it's been a pleasure. That was unreal. That chant and the Safiou one were the theme of the trip outside the English bar! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmarsha_926 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 It is not about ability, Collins, Dunne and Cuellar are on high wages and with Clark and Baker in reserve one of them had to go to get the wages down Cuellar is going simply due to he is out of contract. It would be the same no matter who is in charge. but cuellar's on the lowest wages out of those 3, and is arguably the best centre back in the club. plus if we're going to try to move collins and dunne on, why not just tie up carlos No certainty that anyone will go in for Dunne or Collins, if one of them was out of contract they would be going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Anyone know which spanish club he will end up at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 It is not about ability, Collins, Dunne and Cuellar are on high wages and with Clark and Baker in reserve one of them had to go to get the wages down Cuellar is going simply due to he is out of contract. It would be the same no matter who is in charge. but cuellar's on the lowest wages out of those 3, and is arguably the best centre back in the club. plus if we're going to try to move collins and dunne on, why not just tie up carlos No certainty that anyone will go in for Dunne or Collins, if one of them was out of contract they would be going.I think you're missing the fact that he now needs to be replaced though... And well never manage that for anything close to the money it wouldn't cost just to renew him. At around £33k a week according to reports he's the only defender we have who was earning a fair amount. A 3 year extension would've cost us £5.15m... A replacement will cost that in terms of transfer and signing on fees alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrackpotForeigner Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 A 3 year extension would've cost us £5.15m... A replacement will cost that in terms of transfer and signing on fees alone Yet another reason why letting him go is complete madness. Does anyone have stats for goals conceded with/without Cuellar in the team? I don't know, but my feeling is we conceded at least 30% fewer goals with him playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Can't believe we've let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born-Not-Made Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 On the face of it, it seems a ridiculous decision. What will prove it one way or the other is who they bring in to replace him. Carlos is an excellent defender, but he's not a great footballer and his distribution has, with the occasional exception, been decidedly poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wish he was staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Letting a very decent player go who can play adequately in two positions is sheer madness unless we're getting another quality centreback on a Bosman (Douglas)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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