Big_John_10 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Also, Laursen only played about a dozen games in the 06/07 season. I don't know why this keeps getting ignored. We also had poor attacking options and nothing close to what Mcleish has on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Also, Laursen only played about a dozen games in the 06/07 season. I don't know why this keeps getting ignored. We also had poor attacking options and nothing close to what Mcleish has on offer. Thinking back we had an attack of Angel, who as much as I love him, at the time was no better than Heskey is now, an up and coming Gabby, who had scored a single goal in his career prior to that season and Luke Moore who was... well Luke Moore. Damn! Edit : almost forgot about Baros, the word removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 From memory the squad we have now is far superior to the one MON inherited from DOL. Not sure I agree, don't forget we had bouma Laursen mellberg Barry Plus MON had cash to buy Petrov Carew and Young The squads were similar in capability but MON inherited a much better defence Laursen had played about 10 or so games for Aston Villa before MON arrived. His best years were while MON was in change. Samoe for Bouma, he was rubbish his first season. Barry was on his way to Portsmouth for 4 milion pounds until MON arrived and kept him. Says it all. King Olof, was of course, king Olof. MON's first season squad was extremely poor, much much weaker than this season's. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'm remembering him having Baros up front, Luke Moore out wide with Gabby on the other flank and Gavin McCann in midfield. Wiki says it all for me, especially with their most played starting XI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On current form this is a worse back four compared to MON's first season. Not to mention we had dross in midfield like Gavin McCann and Steven Davies on the right of midfield. RB: Alan Hutton CB: Richard Dunne CB: James Collins LB: Stephen Warnock RB: Liam Ridgewell CB: Gary Cahill CB: Olof Mellberg LB: Wilfred Bouma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_John_10 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Were we not the last team in the country to lose a game that season? Things like that give fans hope for the future. Mcleish has done nothing to show the future could be bright under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Was we not using players such as Osborne and Sutton under o'neill away at teams like everton and picking up points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Possibly, we also had Luke Moore scoring a hat-trick at Middlesborough and remember Craig Gardners stunner at Bolton ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 From memory the squad we have now is far superior to the one MON inherited from DOL. Not sure I agree, don't forget we had bouma Laursen mellberg Barry Plus MON had cash to buy Petrov Carew and Young The squads were similar in capability but MON inherited a much better defence Laursen had played about 10 or so games for Aston Villa before MON arrived. His best years were while MON was in change. Samoe for Bouma, he was rubbish his first season. Barry was on his way to Portsmouth for 4 milion pounds until MON arrived and kept him. Says it all. King Olof, was of course, king Olof. MON's first season squad was extremely poor, much much weaker than this season's. Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'm remembering him having Baros up front, Luke Moore out wide with Gabby on the other flank and Gavin McCann in midfield. Wiki says it all for me, especially with their most played starting XI Yeah looking at that team, its not the greatest of attacking talent is it? AM has more attacking talent now, than MON did back then... Minus Barry.. take a look at our midfield. very very weak.. same as now.. We never replaced The engine of James milner.. Insead we got Ireland, who on his day is a good player, Will never have the work rate of milner.. We need to find a player similar to milner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 14, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 14, 2012 We need to find a player similar to milner. Or rather we need to let him learn the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Possibly, we also had Luke Moore scoring a hat-trick at Middlesborough and remember Craig Gardners stunner at Bolton ! I do remember those days, and I remember thinking that our academy was finally producing top quality players for our first team. Sadly, the manager didn't agree. Possibly rightly so. The thing is, CI, if you reverse the roles MON would get far more out of this team that Eck has, and Eck would have had nothing like the impact MON has had on Sunderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us Sadly I don't think this comparison is going to stand up for much longer. Unless of course McLeish can take 22 points from the next 13 games which I very much doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us I don't think the club can justify getting rid now at this stage in the season Come the summer, yes possibly :shock: :shock: I did not know that. I know that the first season under MON was not great but I did not think it was anywhere near as bad as this. I thought AVFC got 50 points that season. As for the league being worst now, I am not sure about that. The fact that there are 6 strong contenders for the Champions League instead of 4 would suggest otherwise. Also I remember Watford in the premiership in 06/07 and they were horiffically bad, much worse then Wigan now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 We need to find a player similar to milner. Or rather we need to let him learn the Premier League yeah good point, hes got the potential to be better i think anyway. If we are talkin about the same player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us I don't think the club can justify getting rid now at this stage in the season Come the summer, yes possibly :shock: :shock: I did not know that. I know that the first season under MON was not great but I did not think it was anywhere near as bad as this. I thought AVFC got 50 points that season. we did finish with 50 points. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_FA_Premier_League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us I don't think the club can justify getting rid now at this stage in the season Come the summer, yes possibly :shock: :shock: I did not know that. I know that the first season under MON was not great but I did not think it was anywhere near as bad as this. I thought AVFC got 50 points that season. we did finish with 50 points. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_FA_Premier_League And then the next season he finished with 60 points-2007/08, then the next season he finished with 62 points-2008/09, at lastly he finished the 2009/10 season with 64 points, finishing ahead of liverpool and a couple behind Man city.. Ah i miss those days!! MON improved Season upon season with villa, well points anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us Sadly I don't think this comparison is going to stand up for much longer. Unless of course McLeish can take 22 points from the next 13 games which I very much doubt. That's why we should reserve judgment until may Who knows, we could win the next 4 and be flying, equally we could get relegated. It's too soon to call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 We went though an awful spell under O'Neill's first season which was flanked by two decent spells. McLeish has been consistently below par which could threaten to be disastrous depending on the next four games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Perhaps we give him the next 4 games then decide ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 McLeish's record after 25 games is almost an exact replica of MONs first 25 games with us I don't think the club can justify getting rid now at this stage in the season Come the summer, yes possibly :shock: :shock: I did not know that. I know that the first season under MON was not great but I did not think it was anywhere near as bad as this. I thought AVFC got 50 points that season. As for the league being worst now, I am not sure about that. The fact that there are 6 strong contenders for the Champions League instead of 4 would suggest otherwise. Also I remember Watford in the premiership in 06/07 and they were horiffically bad, much worse then Wigan now. I agree that the PL is much more competitive now than it was back then. I'd also swap O'Neill's defence with ours in a heartbeat; Bouma, Mellberg and Cahill could all still arguably do a better job than the clowns we currently have. Unfortunately for McLeish he's inherited a terrible defence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yep, these 4 games are key. Any less than 7 or 8 points and e could be in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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