Villaninireland Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Been crap for ages. He has got complacent because he has no pressure for his place. Sick of seeing his crap distribution & being slow releasing the ball when he has it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Valdes in January? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He can't keep his place after today.I agree how many mistakes has he made already this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 He can't keep his place after today.I agree how many mistakes has he made already this season?Assuming you mean mistakes that led to a goal. Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He has 20% in the MOM voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He has 20% in the MOM voting. yes joke votes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbr600rr Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 this team wont move forward untill this clown is dropped,its just simple not rocket science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) He's a good keeper -- solid mid-table, unlike the rest of our Championship squad. Bad day at the office. Edited October 17, 2015 by Plastic Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) He's a good keeper -- solid mid-table, unlike the rest of our Championship squad. Bad day at the office.He really isn't. Shite goalkeeper, I'm better with the ball at my feet Edited October 17, 2015 by Arj Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 He's a good keeper -- solid mid-table, unlike the rest of our Championship squad. Bad day at the office.I agree with you in terms of ability.But it's undeniable that mistakes have crept into his game.If he keeps the mistakes up then it's no use being a good keeper because he'll cost us points.He is a good goalkeeper. But it's futile if you cost goals with howlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 He's a good keeper -- solid mid-table, unlike the rest of our Championship squad. Bad day at the office.In no conceivable way is he a mid-table Premier League goalkeeper. Apart from Bournemouth, he wouldn't start for a single other Premier League team. If you mean he's a mid-table Championship goalkeeper, then you're getting closer to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's not really that valid. People have been observing we need a better keeper for months now. We don't have to have a Rolodex of every keeper playing in Europe to make that point. The point was being made during the transfer window as well, when we actually had the opportunity to buy a replacement. This. It's the same as the 'who else will take the job/who could definitely do any better' mantra that was used as a last resort argument in favour of retaining Lambert. Ultimately we can only pass comment on the performances of the player in question and whether we feel they are to an acceptable standard. We are not in control of - nor do we have foresight into - what the club will or will not do when it comes to addressing this. However in this case, there are hundreds of keepers out there. With a bit of well conducted scouting, I see no reason to presume that the club are not in a position to find at least one who will be an improvement on Guzan.Yes. At the end of the day, we're in a position to pay higher wages to a starting goalkeeper than all bar 25 or 30 other clubs in the world. Goalkeepers don't get to move very often either, so it's not like outfield players who get snapped up instantly. We could easily find someone better than Guzan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) The problem is dropping him last year but not securing a replacement in the summer, we've ended up with the worst case scenario, a keeper who is under pressure, out of form and clearly not really wanted by the manager. He was one of our best players for too long to become a Championship-level keeper. I still think there is a more than good enough keeper in there, perhaps a new manager would help him too. Edited October 17, 2015 by sharkyvilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 He's a good keeper -- solid mid-table, unlike the rest of our Championship squad. Bad day at the office.In no conceivable way is he a mid-table Premier League goalkeeper. Apart from Bournemouth, he wouldn't start for a single other Premier League team. If you mean he's a mid-table Championship goalkeeper, then you're getting closer to the truth. You can't be serious. He has a respectable save percentage and has faced more shots on goal than the vast majority of his PL peers. Granted, he's had a few howlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm deadly serious. Name a goalkeeper in the Premier League, who starts every week, who is worse than Guzan. You just might get away with Boruc/Federici at Bournemouth. There isn't a single other starting goalkeeper he's better than. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 If Given was still here I'd drop him again but I just don't think Bunn is very capable at all.Can we not recall Steer from Huddersfield, he looked reasonably capable v Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm deadly serious. Name a goalkeeper in the Premier League, who starts every week, who is worse than Guzan. You just might get away with Boruc/Federici at Bournemouth. There isn't a single other starting goalkeeper he's better than. I think John Ruddy at Norwich is a lot worse. That one Palace had lets in some pretty easy goals aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted October 17, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2015 2nd choice keeper at the end of last season but our best keeper this season and he's got at least to assists .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I'm deadly serious. Name a goalkeeper in the Premier League, who starts every week, who is worse than Guzan. You just might get away with Boruc/Federici at Bournemouth. There isn't a single other starting goalkeeper he's better than. I think John Ruddy at Norwich is a lot worse. That one Palace had lets in some pretty easy goals aswell.Palace have Hennessey, who's definitely a better keeper. I agree Ruddy is a bit pants. I still don't think he's actually any worse than Guzan though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Ah I was on about McCarthy who let in that soft goal v us and played the early games of the season.From 2012-14 you could make a good case of Guzan comfortably being top 10 for keepers in the league, not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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